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Echoes of Kissinger on Theranos' board (and many other examples, no doubt).

by pphysch 11mo ago

wantlotsofcurry 11mo ago
I had to look this up. That is absolutely insane…
- dylan604 11mo ago
  If you don't have time for the book, there's a decent documentary available
- chihuahua 11mo ago
  John Carreyrou's book "Bad blood" is extremely good. Full of suspense, amazing revelations. I highly recommend it. It explores a lot of Elizabeth Holmes' and Sunny Balwani's insanity.
hermitcrab 11mo ago
I still haven't got over war criminal Kissinger getting a Nobel Peace Prize.
- ben_w 11mo ago
  Such a weird history, that one. Two of the committee resigned in protest, Kissinger almost turned it down because it was also being awarded to Lê Đức Thọ, Lê Đức Thọ actually turned it down because the peace it was supposed to be about hadn't happened yet, Kissinger accepted in absentia as he did not want to be targeted by anti-war protestors when getting the peace prize, then he later tried to return it only for the committee to say no.
- lupire 11mo ago
  The Peace Prize is weird one. It is a political tool to pressure people toward peace. That's why Obama got one strictly for not being George W Bush. It's one of the few Trump grievant that is legitimate.
  - antonvs 11mo ago
    > It's one of the few Trump grievant that is legitimate. Hardly. What does it have to do with Trump? The only reason it's a "grievance" is that Trump feels he should get the prize. While he supports a genocidal nation and tries to start wars.
- FridayoLeary 11mo ago
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  - db48x 11mo ago
    Haber invented the process for artificially creating ammonia. Since ammonia is a critical fertilizer, this invention has fed billions of people. On the other hand, it’s also critical for the manufacture of explosives. His work on chemical weapons was practically irrelevant by comparison. This was an astounding feat of chemistry, and well worth rewarding. But fundamentally I don’t think we should make moral judgements over things like chemistry. A chemical process to create ammonia is a tool, and tools can always be used for good or evil. Even explosives are just tools that can be used for good or evil. Sometimes those explosives are even the same substance that is used for fertilizer. The morality of the use of the tool is provided by the user of the tool, not the creator of the tool. We can celebrate the people who make the tools while saving our condemnation for the people who use tools for evil. I agree about the Peace prize though, that one’s generally worthless.

Echoes of Kissinger on Theranos' board (and many other examples, no doubt).

by pphysch 11mo ago

Echoes of Kissinger on Theranos' board (and many other examples, no doubt).

wantlotsofcurry 11mo ago

I had to look this up. That is absolutely insane…

dylan604 11mo ago
If you don't have time for the book, there's a decent documentary available
chihuahua 11mo ago
John Carreyrou's book "Bad blood" is extremely good. Full of suspense, amazing revelations. I highly recommend it. It explores a lot of Elizabeth Holmes' and Sunny Balwani's insanity.

hermitcrab 11mo ago

I still haven't got over war criminal Kissinger getting a Nobel Peace Prize.

ben_w 11mo ago
Such a weird history, that one. Two of the committee resigned in protest, Kissinger almost turned it down because it was also being awarded to Lê Đức Thọ, Lê Đức Thọ actually turned it down because the peace it was supposed to be about hadn't happened yet, Kissinger accepted in absentia as he did not want to be targeted by anti-war protestors when getting the peace prize, then he later tried to return it only for the committee to say no.
lupire 11mo ago
The Peace Prize is weird one. It is a political tool to pressure people toward peace. That's why Obama got one strictly for not being George W Bush. It's one of the few Trump grievant that is legitimate.
- antonvs 11mo ago
  > It's one of the few Trump grievant that is legitimate. Hardly. What does it have to do with Trump? The only reason it's a "grievance" is that Trump feels he should get the prize. While he supports a genocidal nation and tries to start wars.
FridayoLeary 11mo ago
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- db48x 11mo ago
  Haber invented the process for artificially creating ammonia. Since ammonia is a critical fertilizer, this invention has fed billions of people. On the other hand, it’s also critical for the manufacture of explosives. His work on chemical weapons was practically irrelevant by comparison. This was an astounding feat of chemistry, and well worth rewarding. But fundamentally I don’t think we should make moral judgements over things like chemistry. A chemical process to create ammonia is a tool, and tools can always be used for good or evil. Even explosives are just tools that can be used for good or evil. Sometimes those explosives are even the same substance that is used for fertilizer. The morality of the use of the tool is provided by the user of the tool, not the creator of the tool. We can celebrate the people who make the tools while saving our condemnation for the people who use tools for evil. I agree about the Peace prize though, that one’s generally worthless.