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Most baffling thing is that sometimes you can't opt-out from "always active" stuff that still involve hundreds of "partners"; see: https://news.ycombinator.com/

• user34283 11mo ago
  Users can opt-out by not using the service or buying an ad-free version if available. One would think that developers should not be forced to offer for free a version monetized with 60% less effective ads. And I understand currently this is indeed not the case for small developers, they can offer paid ad-free or free but with personalized ads. Large platforms apparently cannot.
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  • moi2388 11mo ago
    That’s not how the GDPR and cookie laws work at all
    • hk__2 11mo ago
      That’s how most news websites work in Europe: accept the cookies, or pay.
      • moi2388 11mo ago
        Yes, but opt-out tracking data which is not necessary for the operation of the primary use case of the app is not allowed. It must be opt-in, truly a free choice, and informed consent, and declining must be as easy as accepting.
        • user34283 11mo ago
          My search told me that unless you are a gatekeeper, offering a reasonably priced ad-free tier allows to make the ad-monetized version personalized only. I think it makes sense. Either pay, or consent to effective ads. There's no free lunch
          • moi2388 11mo ago
            You are allowed to serve ads, but not use data to serve personalised ads without free choice opt-in. In theory of course, in practice nothing is being governed or fined for smaller companies.
  • sdoering 11mo ago
    If you want to do business in the EU, just follow the law. You are not allowed to sell Heroin to anyone in Germany. I don't see you making the argument, that we should - in the same fashion as with digital spyware using companies - not target drug dealers. Becase hey, people can just decide to not buy drugs. [Edit]: Typo