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MIT and NYT need to get back on it, too. Lots of people still not feeling any consequences, much like Epstein during life. The girls were threatened more than h

MIT and NYT need to get back on it, too. Lots of people still not feeling any consequences, much like Epstein during life. The girls were threatened more than he ever was (and still are.) It seems like the NYT was cackling in glee just a couple months ago, saying that even Trump had to finally buck the conspiracy theories of his evil, ignorant MAGA followers and admit that there was absolutely nothing to see and nothing interesting about the Epstein case and it's actually silly that you would think there was. Nice that MAGA demands accountability from Trump in a way Democrats don't from their leaders. It's also telling that the NYT is the only major outlet to consistently be reticent to state unequivocally that Epstein killed himself. Always said "found to have committed suicide." Somebody there with editorial veto control knows that flimsy story isn't going to last forever. Even if he hadn't been made cellmates with an insane strangler murder cop with nothing to lose, hadn't said that the "suicide attempt" was insane murder cop trying to kill him, and was taken off suicide watch one day after that "suicide attempt." The night Jeffrey Epstein claimed his cellmate tried to kill him, CBS News 2025/09/22 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-claimed-cellmate-tried-to-kill-him/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-claimed-cellmat... Nicholas Tartaglione https://www.lohud.com/story/news/crime/2019/09/23/feds-how-nicholas-tartaglione-killed-martin-luna/2416640001/ https://www.lohud.com/story/news/crime/2019/09/23/feds-how-n... [edit: re Tartaglione, who never had the slightest chance of ever getting out of prison. Has anybody checked if the financial situation of his family changed for the better since the incident?]

ternaryoperator 11mo ago
> It's also telling that the NYT is the only major outlet to consistently be reticent to state unequivocally that Epstein killed himself. Always said "found to have committed suicide." Nonsense. "...Mr. Epstein, who died by suicide... [0] "...disgraced financier who died by suicide...[1] etc. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/us/politics/trump-epstein-files.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/us/politics/trump-epstein... [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-emails.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein...
lo_zamoyski 11mo ago
> Nice that MAGA demands accountability from Trump in a way Democrats don't from their leaders. This doesn't accord with experience. MAGA is notorious for rationalizing anything Trump says or does. The uniparty is a rotten, spiraling race to the bottom.
- yahoozoo 11mo ago
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  - DonHopkins 11mo ago
    Only because Trump told them to push it first. His problem is that he changed his mind.
    - catlover76 11mo ago
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  - overfeed 11mo ago
    MAGA was pushing for it when they believed it was a liberal conspiracy, with the Clintons trafficking children and "harvesting their adrenochrome" (see Comet Pizza incident). Now MAGA luminaries are suggesting grown men abusing minors isn't that creepy if the victims are teenaged - so much for protecting the kids.
    - lo_zamoyski 11mo ago
      "Hypocrisy is okay if we do it, because they did it first!"
  - DonHopkins 11mo ago
    FYI: Your account has been shadow banned for repeated antisemitic posts, and you deserve it. So stop wasting your time trying to post. And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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650REDHAIR 11mo ago
Isn’t NYT complicit and sat on a lot of Epstein files before the 2016 election.
- bilbo0s 11mo ago
  Um.. Just throwing it out there, but forget Epstein, I'm sure most of us would not believe what NYT is sitting on in general. This is effectively a defacto global intelligence gathering service. I bet if we could read through a lot of that we'd all be gobsmacked and just stop believing in humanity altogether. I understand most of what we haven't seen is uncorroborated, but it would still make for interesting reading if we didn't have to worry about falling down an elevator shaft onto some bullets.
hn_throwaway_99 11mo ago
> Nice that MAGA demands accountability from Trump in a way Democrats don't from their leaders. What planet do you live on?? I don't see any blowback against Trump himself from MAGA followers. It's always "he's getting bad advice", or they blame his sycophants like Bondi. If MAGA demanded accountability from Trump they seemed to be totally fine when he was caught boasting on tape of committing sexual assault.
- trts 11mo ago
  not sure where you are looking but Rasmussen polls have been showing Trump hemorrhaging support since June among his base. if you visit X this is where many of them converse, and they are quite openly unhappy with the admin lately
  - irjustin 11mo ago
    I believe it has nothing to do with sexual offense and that the higher prices of goods is really affecting people. So he's still immune the anything that's horrendous.
    - trts 11mo ago
      guess you can believe what you want but data shows the Epstein topic has been damaging his base support
      - shigawire 11mo ago
        Some indicators suggest that, but we don't really know until the rubber meets the road. The real test is how people vote. With this much confusion I think it is perfectly valid to take a few opinion polls with a grain of salt. Much like how Dems rate their party poorly but still turn it against Trump, I'm not sure MAGA discontent with have any real impact on elections.
    - EasyMark 11mo ago
      I think most people are talking to the core 30-40% of his voters see him as messianic that will go down with the titanic no matter what
cosmicgadget 11mo ago
> Trump had to finally buck the conspiracy theories of his evil, ignorant MAGA followers and admit that there was absolutely nothing to see and nothing interesting about the Epstein case and it's actually silly that you would think there was. Didn't Bondi say there was thousands of hours of video of sex abuse? Was that made up?

ternaryoperator 11mo ago

> It's also telling that the NYT is the only major outlet to consistently be reticent to state unequivocally that Epstein killed himself. Always said "found to have committed suicide." Nonsense. "...Mr. Epstein, who died by suicide... [0] "...disgraced financier who died by suicide...[1] etc. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/us/politics/trump-epstein-files.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/us/politics/trump-epstein... [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-emails.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein...

lo_zamoyski 11mo ago

> Nice that MAGA demands accountability from Trump in a way Democrats don't from their leaders. This doesn't accord with experience. MAGA is notorious for rationalizing anything Trump says or does. The uniparty is a rotten, spiraling race to the bottom.

yahoozoo 11mo ago
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- DonHopkins 11mo ago
  Only because Trump told them to push it first. His problem is that he changed his mind.
  - catlover76 11mo ago
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- overfeed 11mo ago
  MAGA was pushing for it when they believed it was a liberal conspiracy, with the Clintons trafficking children and "harvesting their adrenochrome" (see Comet Pizza incident). Now MAGA luminaries are suggesting grown men abusing minors isn't that creepy if the victims are teenaged - so much for protecting the kids.
  - lo_zamoyski 11mo ago
    "Hypocrisy is okay if we do it, because they did it first!"
- DonHopkins 11mo ago
  FYI: Your account has been shadow banned for repeated antisemitic posts, and you deserve it. So stop wasting your time trying to post. And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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650REDHAIR 11mo ago

Isn’t NYT complicit and sat on a lot of Epstein files before the 2016 election.

bilbo0s 11mo ago
Um.. Just throwing it out there, but forget Epstein, I'm sure most of us would not believe what NYT is sitting on in general. This is effectively a defacto global intelligence gathering service. I bet if we could read through a lot of that we'd all be gobsmacked and just stop believing in humanity altogether. I understand most of what we haven't seen is uncorroborated, but it would still make for interesting reading if we didn't have to worry about falling down an elevator shaft onto some bullets.

hn_throwaway_99 11mo ago

> Nice that MAGA demands accountability from Trump in a way Democrats don't from their leaders. What planet do you live on?? I don't see any blowback against Trump himself from MAGA followers. It's always "he's getting bad advice", or they blame his sycophants like Bondi. If MAGA demanded accountability from Trump they seemed to be totally fine when he was caught boasting on tape of committing sexual assault.

trts 11mo ago
not sure where you are looking but Rasmussen polls have been showing Trump hemorrhaging support since June among his base. if you visit X this is where many of them converse, and they are quite openly unhappy with the admin lately
- irjustin 11mo ago
  I believe it has nothing to do with sexual offense and that the higher prices of goods is really affecting people. So he's still immune the anything that's horrendous.
  - trts 11mo ago
    guess you can believe what you want but data shows the Epstein topic has been damaging his base support
    - shigawire 11mo ago
      Some indicators suggest that, but we don't really know until the rubber meets the road. The real test is how people vote. With this much confusion I think it is perfectly valid to take a few opinion polls with a grain of salt. Much like how Dems rate their party poorly but still turn it against Trump, I'm not sure MAGA discontent with have any real impact on elections.
  - EasyMark 11mo ago
    I think most people are talking to the core 30-40% of his voters see him as messianic that will go down with the titanic no matter what

cosmicgadget 11mo ago

> Trump had to finally buck the conspiracy theories of his evil, ignorant MAGA followers and admit that there was absolutely nothing to see and nothing interesting about the Epstein case and it's actually silly that you would think there was. Didn't Bondi say there was thousands of hours of video of sex abuse? Was that made up?