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What I'm most curious about, and what the docs are light on detail about: does this mean Thunderbird complies with remote deletion requests (which IIRC, the Exc

What I'm most curious about, and what the docs are light on detail about: does this mean Thunderbird complies with remote deletion requests (which IIRC, the Exchange protocol suppports)? I have the impression that Microsoft makes this a requirement for Exchange implementations, which is why third-party devices and apps like Apple's Mail cooperate with those requests.

seethishat 11mo ago
That would be Active Sync: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-activesync/exchange-activesync https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-... Not sure how Mozilla went about the implementation, but I do agree it would be a concern to verify before using. You can perform the following Exchange ActiveSync tasks: Enable and disable Exchange ActiveSync for users Set policies such as minimum password length, device locking, and maximum failed password attempts Initiate a remote wipe to clear all data from a lost or stolen mobile phone Run a variety of reports for viewing or exporting into a variety of formats Control which types of mobile devices can synchronize with your organization through device access rules
- rkagerer 11mo ago
  Some clients perform some of those operations in a sandbox. Eg. Nine for Android let's you choose when you set up an account whether a remote wipe command should just wipe that account's local mailbox, or your whole device.
- semi-extrinsic 11mo ago
  ActiveSync will forever be reserved for the technology I used to sync email and calendar on my HP Jornada 430 running Windows CE - just like James Bond did!
graemep 11mo ago
Do you mean recall? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/recall-an-outlook-email-message-35027f88-d655-4554-b4f8-6c0729a723a0 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/recall-an-outlook... That only works within an organisation, right? Otherwise you just get an email. I got one recently.
- ivanbakel 11mo ago
  No, Exchange ActiveSync (as the other commenter correctly identified it) really allows an admin to wipe your device - ostensibly of mail, but often of all other data as well.[0] If your Outlook server disables IMAP & POP3, then the ActiveSync protocol is AFAIK the only way to get in-app emails on your phone. Admins do this so that they can forcibly wipe the device if they "need" to. 0: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-activesync/remote-wipe https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-...
  - graemep 11mo ago
    I was not sure which you meant.
  - rkagerer 11mo ago
    Historical note: There was also MAPI for a long time (and I believe MAPI over HTTP/S)
    - trympet 11mo ago
      Still is
userbinator 11mo ago
This may turn out like those PDF "security" features, i.e. easy to patch out and ignore.
creatonez 11mo ago
It actually downloads BleachBit and runs it so that even god can't read your emails /s

seethishat 11mo ago

That would be Active Sync: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-activesync/exchange-activesync https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-... Not sure how Mozilla went about the implementation, but I do agree it would be a concern to verify before using. You can perform the following Exchange ActiveSync tasks: Enable and disable Exchange ActiveSync for users Set policies such as minimum password length, device locking, and maximum failed password attempts Initiate a remote wipe to clear all data from a lost or stolen mobile phone Run a variety of reports for viewing or exporting into a variety of formats Control which types of mobile devices can synchronize with your organization through device access rules

rkagerer 11mo ago
Some clients perform some of those operations in a sandbox. Eg. Nine for Android let's you choose when you set up an account whether a remote wipe command should just wipe that account's local mailbox, or your whole device.
semi-extrinsic 11mo ago
ActiveSync will forever be reserved for the technology I used to sync email and calendar on my HP Jornada 430 running Windows CE - just like James Bond did!

graemep 11mo ago

Do you mean recall? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/recall-an-outlook-email-message-35027f88-d655-4554-b4f8-6c0729a723a0 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/recall-an-outlook... That only works within an organisation, right? Otherwise you just get an email. I got one recently.

ivanbakel 11mo ago
No, Exchange ActiveSync (as the other commenter correctly identified it) really allows an admin to wipe your device - ostensibly of mail, but often of all other data as well.[0] If your Outlook server disables IMAP & POP3, then the ActiveSync protocol is AFAIK the only way to get in-app emails on your phone. Admins do this so that they can forcibly wipe the device if they "need" to. 0: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-activesync/remote-wipe https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients/exchange-...
- graemep 11mo ago
  I was not sure which you meant.
- rkagerer 11mo ago
  Historical note: There was also MAPI for a long time (and I believe MAPI over HTTP/S)
  - trympet 11mo ago
    Still is

userbinator 11mo ago

This may turn out like those PDF "security" features, i.e. easy to patch out and ignore.

creatonez 11mo ago

It actually downloads BleachBit and runs it so that even god can't read your emails /s