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Much like the current cookie banner shitshow, a "centrally configured" setting which "websites must respect" will accomplish nothing. There is no consent, infor

by elric 11mo ago

Much like the current cookie banner shitshow, a "centrally configured" setting which "websites must respect" will accomplish nothing. There is no consent, informed or otherwise. Advertisers and their ilk are still hoovering up all the data they can, with or without cookies or consent. Locking up a few people who don't respect their users' privacy would be a much more effective way of achieving actual results. AFAIK no big adtech or data brokers have been punished in any way.

jack_tripper 11mo ago
>Locking up a few people who don't respect their users' privacy would be a much more effective way of achieving actual results. AFAIK no big adtech or data brokers have been punished in any way. I'm a big fan of personal accountability in the corporate world.
general1465 11mo ago
Only thing that actually worked against advertisers is ad blocker. Everything else made them laugh.
nicbou 11mo ago
Me telling you that I don't want to be tracked, no matter what your argument is, is as informed as it gets. You just don't like the answer so you feel entitled to ask again.
Thorrez 11mo ago
You can't lock people up if they're not doing anything illegal. The first step is to write a law making what they're doing illegal. Then if they keep doing it, you'll be able to lock them up.
- troupo 11mo ago
  Companies shipped illegal cookie banners that forced you to click every individual provider to opt-out. No one went to jail: https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come
  - Thorrez 11mo ago
    Does the existing law say that if someone creates a cookie banner like that, then the person can be sent to jail? If not, then the 1st step to jailing people is to change the law.
    - troupo 11mo ago
      Oh. I fully agree. The EU did find that IAB (behind one of the "industry standard banners") was liable for fines: https://www.euractiv.com/news/top-eu-court-finds-widely-employed-consent-system-violates-eu-privacy-regulation/ https://www.euractiv.com/news/top-eu-court-finds-widely-empl... But unfortunately that was partly dismissed on procedural grounds and went nowhere: https://techgdpr.com/blog/data-protection-digest-19052025-divided-court-ruling-on-iab-europe-data-brokers-and-national-security/ https://techgdpr.com/blog/data-protection-digest-19052025-di...
rsynnott 11mo ago
> AFAIK no big adtech or data brokers have been punished in any way. I mean, big tech has absolutely been punished under the GDPR, eg https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fine-facebook-result-edpb-binding-decision_en https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fi...

by elric 11mo ago

jack_tripper 11mo ago

>Locking up a few people who don't respect their users' privacy would be a much more effective way of achieving actual results. AFAIK no big adtech or data brokers have been punished in any way. I'm a big fan of personal accountability in the corporate world.

general1465 11mo ago

Only thing that actually worked against advertisers is ad blocker. Everything else made them laugh.

nicbou 11mo ago

Me telling you that I don't want to be tracked, no matter what your argument is, is as informed as it gets. You just don't like the answer so you feel entitled to ask again.

Thorrez 11mo ago

You can't lock people up if they're not doing anything illegal. The first step is to write a law making what they're doing illegal. Then if they keep doing it, you'll be able to lock them up.

troupo 11mo ago
Companies shipped illegal cookie banners that forced you to click every individual provider to opt-out. No one went to jail: https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come
- Thorrez 11mo ago
  Does the existing law say that if someone creates a cookie banner like that, then the person can be sent to jail? If not, then the 1st step to jailing people is to change the law.
  - troupo 11mo ago
    Oh. I fully agree. The EU did find that IAB (behind one of the "industry standard banners") was liable for fines: https://www.euractiv.com/news/top-eu-court-finds-widely-employed-consent-system-violates-eu-privacy-regulation/ https://www.euractiv.com/news/top-eu-court-finds-widely-empl... But unfortunately that was partly dismissed on procedural grounds and went nowhere: https://techgdpr.com/blog/data-protection-digest-19052025-divided-court-ruling-on-iab-europe-data-brokers-and-national-security/ https://techgdpr.com/blog/data-protection-digest-19052025-di...

rsynnott 11mo ago

> AFAIK no big adtech or data brokers have been punished in any way. I mean, big tech has absolutely been punished under the GDPR, eg https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fine-facebook-result-edpb-binding-decision_en https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fi...