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> There is no more blue state ignoring immigration laws than blue states ignoring crimes like federal tax evasion. It’s not the state’s responsibility to enforc

by scoofy 11mo ago

> There is no more blue state ignoring immigration laws than blue states ignoring crimes like federal tax evasion. It’s not the state’s responsibility to enforce immigration laws or to help the federal government Local authorities often work with federal officials even though they are not obliged to. https://missionlocal.org/2023/11/feds-tout-new-all-hands-on-deck-approach-to-sf-drug-dealing/ https://missionlocal.org/2023/11/feds-tout-new-all-hands-on-... You’re missing the point. I’m not saying nullification is illegal, I’m saying it’s inherently political escalation.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
And the difference is that drug dealing is a state and federal crime. Illegal immigration is only a federal crime. Has there ever been a state and federal partnership on federal tax fraud for instance? I said in another reply that on Jan 6th of 2020, not electing Trump caused political escalation. Trump is going to find any excuse to escalate in Blue states - including sending the National Guard.
- scoofy 11mo ago
  > Has there ever been a state and federal partnership on federal tax fraud for instance? Yes, obviously: https://www.fincen.gov/financial-fraud-enforcement-task-force-ffetf https://www.fincen.gov/financial-fraud-enforcement-task-forc...
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    Mortgage fraud is a state crime and a federal crime as are banking laws. I’ve signed 5 mortgages (well actually seven including two refinances), they all include state and federal laws. Foreclosure procedures are under the jurisdiction of the state and sometimes the local ordinances The state isn’t helping the federal government pursue IRS cheats. For instance this is the GA website. https://dbf.georgia.gov/common-violations-cited-mt-exams https://dbf.georgia.gov/common-violations-cited-mt-exams The state of GA could care less if you don’t pay your federal taxes, defraud the federal government of SSA and Medicare funds etc.
    - scoofy 11mo ago
      I’ve offered multiple examples of states and municipalities working together with federal enforcement of FEDERAL laws. The idea that this isn’t enough to satisfy you is ridiculous.
      - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
        No you didn’t. You offered examples of stares and federal law enforcement working together when there were state and federal interest. Think about it for one second. Why would the state or local government forbid their money and resources to help the federal law enforcement unless people were also breaking state laws? Your example of banking laws is clearly in the federal and state interests.
        raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
        Horrible typos and I’m out of the edit window No you didn’t. You offered examples of states and federal law enforcement working together when there were state and federal interests. Think about it for one second. Why would the state or local government use their money and resources to help the federal law enforcement unless people were also breaking state laws? Your example of banking laws is clearly in the federal and states’ interests.
      - FireBeyond 11mo ago
        [delayed]
- watwut 11mo ago
  > I said in another reply that on Jan 6th of 2020, not electing Trump caused political escalation. No. Trumps inability to accept looses caused him to escalate. Not obeying the violent bully is not the cause of bullies criminal actions, bully being criminal is the cause.

by scoofy 11mo ago

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago

And the difference is that drug dealing is a state and federal crime. Illegal immigration is only a federal crime. Has there ever been a state and federal partnership on federal tax fraud for instance? I said in another reply that on Jan 6th of 2020, not electing Trump caused political escalation. Trump is going to find any excuse to escalate in Blue states - including sending the National Guard.

scoofy 11mo ago
> Has there ever been a state and federal partnership on federal tax fraud for instance? Yes, obviously: https://www.fincen.gov/financial-fraud-enforcement-task-force-ffetf https://www.fincen.gov/financial-fraud-enforcement-task-forc...
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  Mortgage fraud is a state crime and a federal crime as are banking laws. I’ve signed 5 mortgages (well actually seven including two refinances), they all include state and federal laws. Foreclosure procedures are under the jurisdiction of the state and sometimes the local ordinances The state isn’t helping the federal government pursue IRS cheats. For instance this is the GA website. https://dbf.georgia.gov/common-violations-cited-mt-exams https://dbf.georgia.gov/common-violations-cited-mt-exams The state of GA could care less if you don’t pay your federal taxes, defraud the federal government of SSA and Medicare funds etc.
  - scoofy 11mo ago
    I’ve offered multiple examples of states and municipalities working together with federal enforcement of FEDERAL laws. The idea that this isn’t enough to satisfy you is ridiculous.
    - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
      No you didn’t. You offered examples of stares and federal law enforcement working together when there were state and federal interest. Think about it for one second. Why would the state or local government forbid their money and resources to help the federal law enforcement unless people were also breaking state laws? Your example of banking laws is clearly in the federal and state interests.
      - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
        Horrible typos and I’m out of the edit window No you didn’t. You offered examples of states and federal law enforcement working together when there were state and federal interests. Think about it for one second. Why would the state or local government use their money and resources to help the federal law enforcement unless people were also breaking state laws? Your example of banking laws is clearly in the federal and states’ interests.
    - FireBeyond 11mo ago
      [delayed]
watwut 11mo ago
> I said in another reply that on Jan 6th of 2020, not electing Trump caused political escalation. No. Trumps inability to accept looses caused him to escalate. Not obeying the violent bully is not the cause of bullies criminal actions, bully being criminal is the cause.