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It also glosses over or ignores the fact that Discord is low key crushing it, and is hardly a "capitalist hellscape"

ekjhgkejhgk 11mo ago
It's better than the vast majority of social media, but it's still a walled garden. I wouldn't use it for anything important to me.
SunshineTheCat 11mo ago
I know this is kinda a grampa thing to say, but can you imagine timemachining a farmer from 100 years ago to today's "capitalist hellscape" and ordering him a burger on Uber Eats...
- quinnjh 11mo ago
  unfortunately he can only pay you back in 1925 dollars so youll have to take the dime as down payment and get the farmer enrolled in a BNPL
  - kragen 11mo ago
    The 01925 dime is worth about US$3 as bullion (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45907742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45907742) even without getting into collectors' value, so a couple of dimes or a quarter will pay for a hamburger. You may just have to stop by a jeweler or a pawn shop first.
- chb 11mo ago
  Yeah, he'd spit it out because it tastes like corn-fed, feed-lot crap.
- phyzome 11mo ago
  And he'd ask why the hell you're paying for a taxi for your burger.
- lisdexan 11mo ago
  I think a rural farmer from 1925 can understand "I pay an immigrant to deliver me hot food via an exploitative middleman", if he's Indian maybe his cousin that went to the city is a dabbawalla. Like you can do your hypothetical right now with a plane ticket and a 4x4 trip to the Colombian Andes. The peasant might call you a softie, but he's not gonna become Steve Pinker and tell you everything is A-OK.
rrix2 11mo ago
i would respond to this but i'm not paying enough Nitro credits to access those characters on my keyboard
verdverm 11mo ago
those new Discord ads sure are great!
fizwidget 11mo ago
When I opened Discord recently a popup appeared explaining how to earn “Orbs” and trade them for rewards. I’d say that’s pretty consistent with “capitalist hellscape”.
- tavavex 11mo ago
  I wouldn't say they're at the hellscape stage yet. They need money, but they still haven't locked in enough customers to start outright abusing them. So they use middle of the road approaches like their quests, stores and cosmetics to get some extra cash while also having these things be completely optional and beside the actual messaging experience. Only after they get big enough will the hellscape stage start - perhaps, banner ads, automatically joining sponsored servers for users, clawing back essential features to put them behind Nitro, stuff like that.
oytis 11mo ago
It's probably old age, but I can't understand how people enjoy Discord or find it useful. To me it's like another Slack to try to stay on top of, except no one is paying me to stay on top of Discord. Discussion forums were truly the peak of the internet to me

It's better than the vast majority of social media, but it's still a walled garden. I wouldn't use it for anything important to me.

SunshineTheCat 11mo ago

I know this is kinda a grampa thing to say, but can you imagine timemachining a farmer from 100 years ago to today's "capitalist hellscape" and ordering him a burger on Uber Eats...

quinnjh 11mo ago
unfortunately he can only pay you back in 1925 dollars so youll have to take the dime as down payment and get the farmer enrolled in a BNPL
- kragen 11mo ago
  The 01925 dime is worth about US$3 as bullion (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45907742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45907742) even without getting into collectors' value, so a couple of dimes or a quarter will pay for a hamburger. You may just have to stop by a jeweler or a pawn shop first.
chb 11mo ago
Yeah, he'd spit it out because it tastes like corn-fed, feed-lot crap.
phyzome 11mo ago
And he'd ask why the hell you're paying for a taxi for your burger.
lisdexan 11mo ago
I think a rural farmer from 1925 can understand "I pay an immigrant to deliver me hot food via an exploitative middleman", if he's Indian maybe his cousin that went to the city is a dabbawalla. Like you can do your hypothetical right now with a plane ticket and a 4x4 trip to the Colombian Andes. The peasant might call you a softie, but he's not gonna become Steve Pinker and tell you everything is A-OK.

rrix2 11mo ago

i would respond to this but i'm not paying enough Nitro credits to access those characters on my keyboard

verdverm 11mo ago

those new Discord ads sure are great!

fizwidget 11mo ago

When I opened Discord recently a popup appeared explaining how to earn “Orbs” and trade them for rewards. I’d say that’s pretty consistent with “capitalist hellscape”.

tavavex 11mo ago
I wouldn't say they're at the hellscape stage yet. They need money, but they still haven't locked in enough customers to start outright abusing them. So they use middle of the road approaches like their quests, stores and cosmetics to get some extra cash while also having these things be completely optional and beside the actual messaging experience. Only after they get big enough will the hellscape stage start - perhaps, banner ads, automatically joining sponsored servers for users, clawing back essential features to put them behind Nitro, stuff like that.

oytis 11mo ago

It's probably old age, but I can't understand how people enjoy Discord or find it useful. To me it's like another Slack to try to stay on top of, except no one is paying me to stay on top of Discord. Discussion forums were truly the peak of the internet to me