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You wouldn’t. It’s made to suck out investor money and show that google does something, not to actually bring value. My crystal ball says it will be shutdown n

You wouldn’t. It’s made to suck out investor money and show that google does something, not to actually bring value. My crystal ball says it will be shutdown next year.

evandrofisico 1y ago
Most of the AI products are not for the end user, they are just signaling shareholders and possible investors that the company is on the hype.
- rvnx 1y ago
  There is also mechanism inside Google that rewards teams that launches new products, more than the teams that actually maintain existing ones.
- vecter 1y ago
  This kind of cynicism is wild to me. Of course most AI products (and products in general) are for end users. Especially for a company like Google--they need to do everything they can to win the AI wars, and that means winning adoption for their AI models.
  - flipgimble 1y ago
    http://killedbygoogle.com/ http://killedbygoogle.com/ - most Google products are for the temporary career advancement of some exec or product lead. Their only real product is advertising, everything else is a pretense to capture users attention and behaviors that they can auction off.
    - vecter 1y ago
      This is different. AI is an existential threat to Google. I've almost stopped using Google entirely since ChatGPT came out. Why search for a list of webpages which might have the answer to your question and then manually read them one at a time when I can instead just ask an AI to tell me the answer? If Google doesn't adapt, they could easily be dead in a decade.
      - satvikpendem 1y ago
        That's funny. I stopped using ChatGPT completely and use Gemini to search, because it actually integrates with Google nicely as opposed to ChatGPT which for some reason messes up sometimes (likely due to being blocked by websites while no one dares block Google's crawler lest they be wiped off the face of the internet), and for coding, it's Claude (and maybe now Gemini for that as well). I see no need to use any other LLMs these days. Sometimes I test out the open source ones like DeepSeek or Kimi but those are just as a curiosity.
      - aDyslecticCrow 1y ago
        If web-pages don't contain the answer, the AI likely won't either. But the AI will confidently tell me "the answer" anyway. I've had atrocious issues with wrong or straight up invented information that I must search up every single claim it makes on a website. My primary workflow is asking AI questions vaguely to see if it successfully explains information I already know or starts to guess. My average context length of a chat is around 3 messages, since I create new chats with a rephrased version of the question to avoid the context poison. Asking three separate instances the same question in slightly different way regularly gives me 2 different answers. This is still faster than my old approach of finding a dry ground source like a standards document, book, reference, or datasheet, and chewing through it for everything. Now I can sift through 50 secondary sources for the same information much faster because the AI gives me hunches and keywords to google. But I will not take a single claim for an AI seriously without a link to something that says the same thing.
        SleepyMyroslav 1y ago
        Given how embracing AI is an imperative in tech companies, "a link to something" is likely to be a product of LLM-assisted writing itself. Entire concept of checking through the internet becomes more and more recursive with every passing moment.
- jmpeax 1y ago
  Google is still looking for investors?
  - rajamaka 1y ago
    Of course, Alphabet exists to give returns to their shareholders.
rishabhd 1y ago
funny my magic 8 ball says the same thing!
meowface 1y ago
I know Google is quick to shut things down but these ultra-cynical ultra-skeptical HN takes are so tiresome at this point.
- pydry 1y ago
  This is what Google is like though. It is practically part of their corporate DNA.
  - meowface 1y ago
    I do not believe that Google Antigravity is aimed at wooing investors. I believe it is intended to be a genuine superior alternative to Cursor and Kiro etc. and is attempting to provide the best AI coding experience for the average developer. Most of the other people (so far) in this sub-thread do not think this. They essentially have a conspiratorial view on it.
    - egorfine 1y ago
      > I do not believe that Google Antigravity is aimed at wooing investors. There is no evidence to support any other motive. Any experienced (as in, 10+ years) developer knows better than to trust google with dev tools.
      - crazygringo 1y ago
        What dev tools has Google shut down? Colab is still going strong. Chrome inspector is still going strong. They've never released a full-fledged IDE before, have they? Which I don't count Apps Script editor as one, but that's been around for a long time as well. I think it's much more likely that Google believes this is the future of development and wants to get in on the ground floor. As they should.
        egorfine 1y ago
        > Google believes this is the future of development This is hardly possible as this is definitely not the future of development which is obvious to developers who created this. Or to any developer for that matter. This is a stakeholders' feature.
crazygringo 1y ago
Investor money? Google is highly profitable. It's not looking for investment, it's the one investing. Maybe you are confusing it with OpenAI?
- kvirani 1y ago
  I think they are referring to public market investors vs private investors. Meaning, their stock valuation.

You wouldn’t. It’s made to suck out investor money and show that google does something, not to actually bring value. My crystal ball says it will be shutdown next year.

evandrofisico 1y ago

Most of the AI products are not for the end user, they are just signaling shareholders and possible investors that the company is on the hype.

rvnx 1y ago
There is also mechanism inside Google that rewards teams that launches new products, more than the teams that actually maintain existing ones.
vecter 1y ago
This kind of cynicism is wild to me. Of course most AI products (and products in general) are for end users. Especially for a company like Google--they need to do everything they can to win the AI wars, and that means winning adoption for their AI models.
- flipgimble 1y ago
  http://killedbygoogle.com/ http://killedbygoogle.com/ - most Google products are for the temporary career advancement of some exec or product lead. Their only real product is advertising, everything else is a pretense to capture users attention and behaviors that they can auction off.
  - vecter 1y ago
    This is different. AI is an existential threat to Google. I've almost stopped using Google entirely since ChatGPT came out. Why search for a list of webpages which might have the answer to your question and then manually read them one at a time when I can instead just ask an AI to tell me the answer? If Google doesn't adapt, they could easily be dead in a decade.
    - satvikpendem 1y ago
      That's funny. I stopped using ChatGPT completely and use Gemini to search, because it actually integrates with Google nicely as opposed to ChatGPT which for some reason messes up sometimes (likely due to being blocked by websites while no one dares block Google's crawler lest they be wiped off the face of the internet), and for coding, it's Claude (and maybe now Gemini for that as well). I see no need to use any other LLMs these days. Sometimes I test out the open source ones like DeepSeek or Kimi but those are just as a curiosity.
    - aDyslecticCrow 1y ago
      If web-pages don't contain the answer, the AI likely won't either. But the AI will confidently tell me "the answer" anyway. I've had atrocious issues with wrong or straight up invented information that I must search up every single claim it makes on a website. My primary workflow is asking AI questions vaguely to see if it successfully explains information I already know or starts to guess. My average context length of a chat is around 3 messages, since I create new chats with a rephrased version of the question to avoid the context poison. Asking three separate instances the same question in slightly different way regularly gives me 2 different answers. This is still faster than my old approach of finding a dry ground source like a standards document, book, reference, or datasheet, and chewing through it for everything. Now I can sift through 50 secondary sources for the same information much faster because the AI gives me hunches and keywords to google. But I will not take a single claim for an AI seriously without a link to something that says the same thing.
      - SleepyMyroslav 1y ago
        Given how embracing AI is an imperative in tech companies, "a link to something" is likely to be a product of LLM-assisted writing itself. Entire concept of checking through the internet becomes more and more recursive with every passing moment.
jmpeax 1y ago
Google is still looking for investors?
- rajamaka 1y ago
  Of course, Alphabet exists to give returns to their shareholders.

rishabhd 1y ago

funny my magic 8 ball says the same thing!

meowface 1y ago

I know Google is quick to shut things down but these ultra-cynical ultra-skeptical HN takes are so tiresome at this point.

pydry 1y ago
This is what Google is like though. It is practically part of their corporate DNA.
- meowface 1y ago
  I do not believe that Google Antigravity is aimed at wooing investors. I believe it is intended to be a genuine superior alternative to Cursor and Kiro etc. and is attempting to provide the best AI coding experience for the average developer. Most of the other people (so far) in this sub-thread do not think this. They essentially have a conspiratorial view on it.
  - egorfine 1y ago
    > I do not believe that Google Antigravity is aimed at wooing investors. There is no evidence to support any other motive. Any experienced (as in, 10+ years) developer knows better than to trust google with dev tools.
    - crazygringo 1y ago
      What dev tools has Google shut down? Colab is still going strong. Chrome inspector is still going strong. They've never released a full-fledged IDE before, have they? Which I don't count Apps Script editor as one, but that's been around for a long time as well. I think it's much more likely that Google believes this is the future of development and wants to get in on the ground floor. As they should.
      - egorfine 1y ago
        > Google believes this is the future of development This is hardly possible as this is definitely not the future of development which is obvious to developers who created this. Or to any developer for that matter. This is a stakeholders' feature.

crazygringo 1y ago

Investor money? Google is highly profitable. It's not looking for investment, it's the one investing. Maybe you are confusing it with OpenAI?

kvirani 1y ago
I think they are referring to public market investors vs private investors. Meaning, their stock valuation.