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?? It's free, and it protects you from all sorts of nasty things. I can't think of any reason not to use cloudflare. It's _dead easy_ to set up too. I can't h

?? It's free, and it protects you from all sorts of nasty things. I can't think of any reason not to use cloudflare. It's _dead easy_ to set up too. I can't help but think that the author understands what cloudflare actually does, or just has a poor understanding of what goes on on the internet. Probably a bit of just being in a bad mood about cloudflare being down too.

AndroTux 11mo ago
But your site will be down for 3 hours once every 3 years!!1
lilOnion 11mo ago
I get these arguments and I see the appeal. But should this be the primary reason to use them, this way the web is being massively centralized. Everything running through them doesn't seem that smart to me. But of course I understand that for most users this isn't really a concern and the benefits that cf provides are much more important rather then the centralization problem.
- Faaak 11mo ago
  Yeah, for me this is the main reason. I don't need it (even though I self host many websites, some having 100k requests/day, which is reasonable for a homelab). But most importantly, and don't want all the traffic to my websites being MITM by a company, even more so when it's foreign
mrweasel 11mo ago
Many also put their personal stuff behind CloudFlare because it's a good way to learn a tool that they might need professionally later. I'm all for decentralizing and I don't feel the need for CloudFlare personally, but yes, arguing that people really shouldn't be doing it, period, requires some good technical reason or a more convincing political stance.
bombcar 11mo ago
The biggest argument against using it is that if everyone uses it, there is no Internet but Cloudflare; and so CLoudflare is the decider and arbiter of Internet access for all.
dzogchen 11mo ago
If you use Cloudflare, your website will be inaccessible by well over half of German connections in the evening.
- blueflow 11mo ago
  I instantly knew you are talking about Deutsche Telekom and their shit-tier transits.

AndroTux 11mo ago

But your site will be down for 3 hours once every 3 years!!1

lilOnion 11mo ago

I get these arguments and I see the appeal. But should this be the primary reason to use them, this way the web is being massively centralized. Everything running through them doesn't seem that smart to me. But of course I understand that for most users this isn't really a concern and the benefits that cf provides are much more important rather then the centralization problem.

Faaak 11mo ago
Yeah, for me this is the main reason. I don't need it (even though I self host many websites, some having 100k requests/day, which is reasonable for a homelab). But most importantly, and don't want all the traffic to my websites being MITM by a company, even more so when it's foreign

mrweasel 11mo ago

Many also put their personal stuff behind CloudFlare because it's a good way to learn a tool that they might need professionally later. I'm all for decentralizing and I don't feel the need for CloudFlare personally, but yes, arguing that people really shouldn't be doing it, period, requires some good technical reason or a more convincing political stance.

bombcar 11mo ago

The biggest argument against using it is that if everyone uses it, there is no Internet but Cloudflare; and so CLoudflare is the decider and arbiter of Internet access for all.

dzogchen 11mo ago

If you use Cloudflare, your website will be inaccessible by well over half of German connections in the evening.

blueflow 11mo ago
I instantly knew you are talking about Deutsche Telekom and their shit-tier transits.