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Some of the other commenters here have posited a "vibe code theory". As the amount of vibe code in production increases, so does the number of bugs and, therefo

Some of the other commenters here have posited a "vibe code theory". As the amount of vibe code in production increases, so does the number of bugs and, therefore, the number of outages.

ACCount37 11mo ago
None of the recent major outages were traced down to "vibe coding" or anything of the sort. They appear to be the kind of misconfigurations and networking fuckups that existed since Internet became more complex than 3 routers.
- Seb-C 11mo ago
  The "vibe thinking" trend where people stop using their brain and rely on whatever random output the LLM tells them is harder to diagnose, but it's certainly there and at least as bad as vibe coding.
  - Aurornis 11mo ago
    What about the “vibe thinking” trend where people project their own narratives on to every situation, even if the information available shows that it’s a rise in large scale DDoS attacks?
    - ACCount37 11mo ago
      Unfortunately, not a trend. Just human nature. I hope they'll find a fix for that one day.
- davey48016 11mo ago
  Wasn't the recent AWS a race condition that's existed since before vibe coding was a thing?
- ceejayoz 11mo ago
  How likely are we to know when a "misconfiguration or networking fuckup" is due to someone asking ChatGPT how to do the task?
- shufflerofrocks 11mo ago
  >misconfigurations and networking fuckups that existed since Internet became more complex than 3 routers. Yet there has been an uptick in frequency of outages only in the recent few months. Correlation correlation. Why assume that these misconfigs are not the result of someone asking AI how to do them?
  - voidUpdate 11mo ago
    Is it a statistically significant uptick though? Random events doesn't mean equally spaced, sometimes there will be more, sometimes there will be less
fransje26 11mo ago
Speaking of "vibe-coding", I wonder how much their own outage is affecting their ability to vibe-code their way out of it.. :-) The openai login page says: Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed.
swed420 11mo ago
> Some of the other commenters here have posited a "vibe code theory". As the amount of vibe code in production increases, so does the number of bugs and, therefore, the number of outages. Likely this coupled with the mass brain damage caused by never-ending COVID re-infections. Since vaccines don't prevent transmission, and each re-infection increases the chances of long COVID complications, the only real protection right now is wearing a proper respirator everywhere you go, and basically nobody is doing that anymore.
- DaSHacka 11mo ago
  Are you being hyperbolic? It's clearly not this, and very likely not GP's proposal either.
  - swed420 11mo ago
    No, and it's easy to find ample research backing it up.
    - Swannie 11mo ago
      Agreed. Most people are not self reflective reflective enough to notice. Need to trust the studies. Far more plausible than the AI ideas. I find it far more likely these are smart people running without oversight for years pre-COVID, relying on being smart at 2am change windows. Now half or a full std. dev. lower on the IQ scale, hubris means fewer guard rails before change, and far lower ability to recover during change window.
      - swed420 11mo ago
        Exactly. The effects can include both "brain fog" as well as impaired judgement, since the brain areas affected have to do with executive function. We can even see (measure) it in driving behavior patterns. Another data point is how Hollywood has gone to great lengths to keep the whole thing hush hush, because such a downer is bad for business: https://old.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/comments/1ncmclw/buffy_the_covid_slayer_sarah_michelle_gellar/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/comments/1ncmclw...

Some of the other commenters here have posited a "vibe code theory". As the amount of vibe code in production increases, so does the number of bugs and, therefore, the number of outages.

ACCount37 11mo ago

None of the recent major outages were traced down to "vibe coding" or anything of the sort. They appear to be the kind of misconfigurations and networking fuckups that existed since Internet became more complex than 3 routers.

Seb-C 11mo ago
The "vibe thinking" trend where people stop using their brain and rely on whatever random output the LLM tells them is harder to diagnose, but it's certainly there and at least as bad as vibe coding.
- Aurornis 11mo ago
  What about the “vibe thinking” trend where people project their own narratives on to every situation, even if the information available shows that it’s a rise in large scale DDoS attacks?
  - ACCount37 11mo ago
    Unfortunately, not a trend. Just human nature. I hope they'll find a fix for that one day.
davey48016 11mo ago
Wasn't the recent AWS a race condition that's existed since before vibe coding was a thing?
ceejayoz 11mo ago
How likely are we to know when a "misconfiguration or networking fuckup" is due to someone asking ChatGPT how to do the task?
shufflerofrocks 11mo ago
>misconfigurations and networking fuckups that existed since Internet became more complex than 3 routers. Yet there has been an uptick in frequency of outages only in the recent few months. Correlation correlation. Why assume that these misconfigs are not the result of someone asking AI how to do them?
- voidUpdate 11mo ago
  Is it a statistically significant uptick though? Random events doesn't mean equally spaced, sometimes there will be more, sometimes there will be less

fransje26 11mo ago

Speaking of "vibe-coding", I wonder how much their own outage is affecting their ability to vibe-code their way out of it.. :-) The openai login page says: Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed.

swed420 11mo ago

> Some of the other commenters here have posited a "vibe code theory". As the amount of vibe code in production increases, so does the number of bugs and, therefore, the number of outages. Likely this coupled with the mass brain damage caused by never-ending COVID re-infections. Since vaccines don't prevent transmission, and each re-infection increases the chances of long COVID complications, the only real protection right now is wearing a proper respirator everywhere you go, and basically nobody is doing that anymore.

DaSHacka 11mo ago
Are you being hyperbolic? It's clearly not this, and very likely not GP's proposal either.
- swed420 11mo ago
  No, and it's easy to find ample research backing it up.
  - Swannie 11mo ago
    Agreed. Most people are not self reflective reflective enough to notice. Need to trust the studies. Far more plausible than the AI ideas. I find it far more likely these are smart people running without oversight for years pre-COVID, relying on being smart at 2am change windows. Now half or a full std. dev. lower on the IQ scale, hubris means fewer guard rails before change, and far lower ability to recover during change window.
    - swed420 11mo ago
      Exactly. The effects can include both "brain fog" as well as impaired judgement, since the brain areas affected have to do with executive function. We can even see (measure) it in driving behavior patterns. Another data point is how Hollywood has gone to great lengths to keep the whole thing hush hush, because such a downer is bad for business: https://old.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/comments/1ncmclw/buffy_the_covid_slayer_sarah_michelle_gellar/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/comments/1ncmclw...