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And no lesson about single point of failure and centralization was learned that day.
by jamesnorden 11mo ago
And no lesson about single point of failure and centralization was learned that day.
- carlosjobim 11mo agoWhere is the single point of failure? You can point to different name servers and swiftly remove Cloudflare from your setup.
- JustSkyfall 11mo agoNot if you’re using Workers/Pages!
- blackjackfoe 11mo agoIf your site is only hosted on one server and it catches fire, you can swiftly reinstall on a new server and change the IP your domain is pointing to, too... Still a single point of failure.
- carlosjobim 11mo agoYes, everything in the world is a single point of failure and has always been, if we look at things that way. But if it can be remedied quickly, then it's not a huge concern.
- cryptonym 11mo agoOnly true if your audience doesn't require Edge distribution, also if your Origin can handle the increased load and security issues, also if you don't use any advanced features (routing, edge compute...).
- carlosjobim 11mo agoAren't there other companies offering edge distribution?
- cryptonym 11mo agoYes, and they come with different architectures, SLAs,... not so easy to pick one. Their features may not map 1:1, not so easy to implement a multi-edge solution.
- carlosjobim 11mo agoCertainly. But I think that comes with the responsibilities, to be ready to switch a third party provider if necessary. Nothing is ever certain.
- cryptonym 11mo agoPeople are ready to switch to third party but such plan comes at cost. Instant switch means really high cost (two contracts) and also maintaining and testing it regularly. Also means you are limited on advanced features and most likely stick to basic features, reducing your ROI. Most people are ok with a switch that would take days to weeks, reimplementing basic stuff during initial migration, then iterating on more advanced features. You run at risk to be down for hours to days. The cost of 2N or 2N+1 vendors is just too high to justify it.
- pessimizer 11mo agoBut you didn't, so Cloudflare ended up being a single point of failure for half the internet.
- carlosjobim 11mo agoIf I had pointed my name servers somewhere else, then that of course would be the new single point of failure. You can't escape it, no matter how much hacker snark and down votes you have.
- filleduchaos 11mo agoBold of you to assume the service you use to manage your DNS was not also relying on Cloudflare just like you
- quakebot 11mo ago[dead]