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The Churchill line is about democracy, but the adapted version is a common variation. It works as a standalone maxim without need of attribution to some famous

The Churchill line is about democracy, but the adapted version is a common variation. It works as a standalone maxim without need of attribution to some famous person.

squigz 11mo ago
It works insofar as quotes that sound wise but have no kind of evidence backing it up often do.
- simondotau 11mo ago
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  - ben_w 11mo ago
    I don't know if you've noticed, but internet discussions collectively can't seem to avoid "no true Scotsman"-ing what counts as capitalism, likewise its alternatives. I've seen some people on HN criticise the "socialist" healthcare of the nordic countries on the basis of what Stalin was like, and others saying that China as is today is each of communist and capitalist depending on the point the poster wants to make.
  - squigz 11mo ago
    No, because I'm not going to get into a debate about whether capitalism is good or not on a memorial post. Even if I were so inclined, I'm not the one making grand claims about every economic system in the world. You're the one who has to prove your claim.
    - simondotau 11mo ago
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      - DonHopkins 11mo ago
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- latentsea 11mo ago
  Such quotes are the worst form of quotes, except for all the other kinds.
philipwhiuk 11mo ago
> the adapted version is a common variation Got any evidence for that?
- endgame 11mo ago
  NYT (opinion), 2017: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/opinion/dont-quote-them-on-it.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/opinion/dont-quote-them-o... Forbes, 2019: https://www.forbes.com/sites/yuwahedrickwong/2019/04/19/economics-matters-market-capitalism-is-under-attack-heres-what-we-can-do/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/yuwahedrickwong/2019/04/19/econ... NPR, 2009: https://www.npr.org/2009/10/26/114163098/a-spoonful-of-socialism-makes-capitalism-work https://www.npr.org/2009/10/26/114163098/a-spoonful-of-socia... LSE Economics Society essay question, 2018: https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/blog/lse-economics-society-essay-competition-2018 https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/blog/lse-economics-society... I also clicked through ten pages of Google search results for "capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others", each of which showed the literal quotes in the preview excerpts, at which point I became too bored to continue.

The Churchill line is about democracy, but the adapted version is a common variation. It works as a standalone maxim without need of attribution to some famous person.

squigz 11mo ago

It works insofar as quotes that sound wise but have no kind of evidence backing it up often do.

simondotau 11mo ago
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- ben_w 11mo ago
  I don't know if you've noticed, but internet discussions collectively can't seem to avoid "no true Scotsman"-ing what counts as capitalism, likewise its alternatives. I've seen some people on HN criticise the "socialist" healthcare of the nordic countries on the basis of what Stalin was like, and others saying that China as is today is each of communist and capitalist depending on the point the poster wants to make.
- squigz 11mo ago
  No, because I'm not going to get into a debate about whether capitalism is good or not on a memorial post. Even if I were so inclined, I'm not the one making grand claims about every economic system in the world. You're the one who has to prove your claim.
  - simondotau 11mo ago
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    - DonHopkins 11mo ago
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latentsea 11mo ago
Such quotes are the worst form of quotes, except for all the other kinds.

philipwhiuk 11mo ago

> the adapted version is a common variation Got any evidence for that?

endgame 11mo ago
NYT (opinion), 2017: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/opinion/dont-quote-them-on-it.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/opinion/dont-quote-them-o... Forbes, 2019: https://www.forbes.com/sites/yuwahedrickwong/2019/04/19/economics-matters-market-capitalism-is-under-attack-heres-what-we-can-do/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/yuwahedrickwong/2019/04/19/econ... NPR, 2009: https://www.npr.org/2009/10/26/114163098/a-spoonful-of-socialism-makes-capitalism-work https://www.npr.org/2009/10/26/114163098/a-spoonful-of-socia... LSE Economics Society essay question, 2018: https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/blog/lse-economics-society-essay-competition-2018 https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/blog/lse-economics-society... I also clicked through ten pages of Google search results for "capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others", each of which showed the literal quotes in the preview excerpts, at which point I became too bored to continue.