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This sounds like a bug, not some kind of coverup. Google makes mistakes and it's worth discussing issues like this, but calling this a "coverup" does a disservi
by leoh 11mo ago
This sounds like a bug, not some kind of coverup. Google makes mistakes and it's worth discussing issues like this, but calling this a "coverup" does a disservice to truly serious issues.
- freedomben 11mo agoI agree, this screams bug to me. Reading the thought process definitely seems damning, but a bug still seems like the most likely explanation.
- CGamesPlay 11mo agoRemember that "thought process" is just a metaphor that we use to describe what's happening. Under the hood, the "thought process" is just a response from the LLM that isn't shown to the user. It's not where the LLM's "conscience" or "consciousness" lives; and it's just as much of a bullshit generator as the rest of the reply. Strange, but I can't say that it's "damning" in any conventional sense of the word.
- JakaJancar 11mo agoI didn't mean to imply Google was covering anything up, but Gemini in this specific conversation clearly was.
- roywiggins 11mo agoimho the best you can say is that the "thinking" trace says it was. thinking tokens aren't infallible indications of what the model's doing