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Not a big fan of emojis becoming the norm in LLM output. It seems Grok 4.1 uses more emojis than 4. Also GPT5.1 thinking is now using emojis, even in math rea

by cpldcpu 11mo ago

Not a big fan of emojis becoming the norm in LLM output. It seems Grok 4.1 uses more emojis than 4. Also GPT5.1 thinking is now using emojis, even in math reasoning. 5 didn't do that.

afavour 11mo ago
Taking a step back I'm kind of fascinated by the introduction of emojis into our language as a whole new lexicon of punctuation and what that’ll mean for language in the future. …but I’m still infuriated when I read a passage full of them.
- packetlost 11mo ago
  I'm not sure that I would call them punctuation but they're certainly an interesting pictographic addition. I think they're great, but I too get irritated when not used judiciously.
  - devin 11mo ago
    To me, their usage is akin to to turning a plaintext file into rtf. Emojis do not look the same across platforms. Generated text should default to the generic IMO.
    - viraptor 11mo ago
      Ok. :green-checkmark:
    - packetlost 11mo ago
      Plain text doesn't look the same across platforms for the same reason emojis don't, what's your point? At a technical level, it's no different than a plaintext doc with Chinese (or almost any other non-latin script) characters in it. It's still just a linear stream of text encoding with no specific structure beyond that.
- mlindner 11mo ago
  There's a reason they were a Japanese language invention because the idea of "symbols = meaning" is not something that would have likely natively happened in English, at least to a wide extent. We would have still been writing :-)
buu700 11mo ago
I recently had to switch Grok from the default behavior to the custom prompt below. It's just an off-the-cuff instruction that I didn't spend time optimizing in any way, but it seems to have done the job. In hindsight, that probably coincided with silent A/B testing of 4.1. > Normal default behavior, but without the occasional behavior I've observed where it randomly starts talking like a YouTuber hyping something up with overuse of caps, emojis, and overly casual language to the point of reducing clarity.
chrisnight 11mo ago
I personally don’t like it intertwined with conversation, but I do think I like how it adds color to help emphasize certain information, outside of the text. A red X or a green checkmark is easier to see at the start than a sentence saying something is valid halfway through a paragraph. Also, it using emojis helps as a signal that certain content is LLM generated, which is beneficial in its own right.
jsnell 11mo ago
Whenever I see an A/B test on a chatbot, I will vote for the version with more emojis. It might be petty, but it's all the rebellion I've got left. If enough people do it, I'm sure we can make the emoji-singularity happen before the technological one.
sunaookami 11mo ago
:checkmark: Added some words :checkmark: Hashed passwords (with MD5) :checkmark: Added <basic feature> Your code is now production-ready! :rocket: -- I swear I'm losing my mind when Claude does this.

by cpldcpu 11mo ago

Not a big fan of emojis becoming the norm in LLM output. It seems Grok 4.1 uses more emojis than 4. Also GPT5.1 thinking is now using emojis, even in math reasoning. 5 didn't do that.

afavour 11mo ago

Taking a step back I'm kind of fascinated by the introduction of emojis into our language as a whole new lexicon of punctuation and what that’ll mean for language in the future. …but I’m still infuriated when I read a passage full of them.

packetlost 11mo ago
I'm not sure that I would call them punctuation but they're certainly an interesting pictographic addition. I think they're great, but I too get irritated when not used judiciously.
- devin 11mo ago
  To me, their usage is akin to to turning a plaintext file into rtf. Emojis do not look the same across platforms. Generated text should default to the generic IMO.
  - viraptor 11mo ago
    Ok. :green-checkmark:
  - packetlost 11mo ago
    Plain text doesn't look the same across platforms for the same reason emojis don't, what's your point? At a technical level, it's no different than a plaintext doc with Chinese (or almost any other non-latin script) characters in it. It's still just a linear stream of text encoding with no specific structure beyond that.
mlindner 11mo ago
There's a reason they were a Japanese language invention because the idea of "symbols = meaning" is not something that would have likely natively happened in English, at least to a wide extent. We would have still been writing :-)

buu700 11mo ago

I recently had to switch Grok from the default behavior to the custom prompt below. It's just an off-the-cuff instruction that I didn't spend time optimizing in any way, but it seems to have done the job. In hindsight, that probably coincided with silent A/B testing of 4.1. > Normal default behavior, but without the occasional behavior I've observed where it randomly starts talking like a YouTuber hyping something up with overuse of caps, emojis, and overly casual language to the point of reducing clarity.

chrisnight 11mo ago

I personally don’t like it intertwined with conversation, but I do think I like how it adds color to help emphasize certain information, outside of the text. A red X or a green checkmark is easier to see at the start than a sentence saying something is valid halfway through a paragraph. Also, it using emojis helps as a signal that certain content is LLM generated, which is beneficial in its own right.

jsnell 11mo ago

Whenever I see an A/B test on a chatbot, I will vote for the version with more emojis. It might be petty, but it's all the rebellion I've got left. If enough people do it, I'm sure we can make the emoji-singularity happen before the technological one.

sunaookami 11mo ago

:checkmark: Added some words :checkmark: Hashed passwords (with MD5) :checkmark: Added <basic feature> Your code is now production-ready! :rocket: -- I swear I'm losing my mind when Claude does this.