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I read that book and I think it's terrible. Though the "God has not seen fit to distribute evenly the gift of intelligence" was funny and I can relate... but

I read that book and I think it's terrible. Though the "God has not seen fit to distribute evenly the gift of intelligence" was funny and I can relate... but otherwise, I wouldn't want to live in a society where people are secretly hating you but "speaking ill of no man" a.k.a. "not criticizing." I liked the book Winning by Jack Welch more, which advocates for "candor," and is essentially the opposite of How to Win Friends.

warkdarrior 1y ago
> I liked the book Winning by Jack Welch more Jack Welch the sociopath?? Or is there another author with that same name?
lovich 1y ago
The sociopath who destroyed GE in the quest for more money is someone I would only take social advice from if I was done with humanity and had started to use society for entirely selfish ends. He got away with “candor” because he was at the top and anyone who disagreed with him was removed. Honestly any self help books from people in unique positions in society trying to tell the common man how to improve always read to me as “my top 10 tips for winning the lottery: tip one buy a winning lottery ticket”
- koakuma-chan 1y ago
  Do you think you are a common man? Are you content with it?
  - lovich 1y ago
    Yes and yes. I actually like being part of society and don’t need to feed delusions of grandeur to feel content. Also I want to point out how I referenced his opinion as being like tips on winning the lottery. Getting to a unique position of power like that requires so much luck and other input that you have no control over that I view the “advice” on how to achieve it as useless and just the result of those people grappling with the cognitive dissonance of thinking they got to where they are on their own vs the actual reality
    - avhception 1y ago
      I think the whole "everyone's so very special" shtick that is so pervasive in children's stuff didn't do us any good. Being content with being just an normal everyday human is important.
    - koakuma-chan 1y ago
      Arguably, you are the lucky one to be able to be a part of society in a way that you are also content with it.
      - lovich 1y ago
        You asked about this in a specific context. There are lots of things I am not content with. Some I think are reasonable and won’t change my mind are. Others are irrational and I believe an aspect of maturing is becoming content with the fact that those feelings are irrational and I shouldn’t be unhappy because of it. The example I use in conversation with friends in this topic is that when I am hungry and pass by someone with a nice steak, I don’t get in a tizzy about not having it myself the same way I would when I was 5.
ozim 1y ago
Not criticizing is not for hiding fact you hate someone. Not criticizing is about - you see someone slipping don’t call them stupid just move on. Like if someone makes a typo in comment here on HN, no one writes how stupid they are because they might be on the phone having autocorrect breaking their typing. You don’t really show off how smart you are pointing out small mistakes. Hating someone requires that they somehow wronged you. There was nothing in the book about being nice for someone who is swearing at you or punched you in the face.
- koakuma-chan 1y ago
  Whether someone is swearing at me or punched me in the face is not a factor. I believe the point of the book is that criticism tends to be taken personally. I'm sure you can guess what that implies.
ghurtado 1y ago
> Winning by Jack Welch Why do I get the impression that this book is very much in line with Charlie Sheen's personal philosophy?

warkdarrior 1y ago

> I liked the book Winning by Jack Welch more Jack Welch the sociopath?? Or is there another author with that same name?

lovich 1y ago

The sociopath who destroyed GE in the quest for more money is someone I would only take social advice from if I was done with humanity and had started to use society for entirely selfish ends. He got away with “candor” because he was at the top and anyone who disagreed with him was removed. Honestly any self help books from people in unique positions in society trying to tell the common man how to improve always read to me as “my top 10 tips for winning the lottery: tip one buy a winning lottery ticket”

koakuma-chan 1y ago
Do you think you are a common man? Are you content with it?
- lovich 1y ago
  Yes and yes. I actually like being part of society and don’t need to feed delusions of grandeur to feel content. Also I want to point out how I referenced his opinion as being like tips on winning the lottery. Getting to a unique position of power like that requires so much luck and other input that you have no control over that I view the “advice” on how to achieve it as useless and just the result of those people grappling with the cognitive dissonance of thinking they got to where they are on their own vs the actual reality
  - avhception 1y ago
    I think the whole "everyone's so very special" shtick that is so pervasive in children's stuff didn't do us any good. Being content with being just an normal everyday human is important.
  - koakuma-chan 1y ago
    Arguably, you are the lucky one to be able to be a part of society in a way that you are also content with it.
    - lovich 1y ago
      You asked about this in a specific context. There are lots of things I am not content with. Some I think are reasonable and won’t change my mind are. Others are irrational and I believe an aspect of maturing is becoming content with the fact that those feelings are irrational and I shouldn’t be unhappy because of it. The example I use in conversation with friends in this topic is that when I am hungry and pass by someone with a nice steak, I don’t get in a tizzy about not having it myself the same way I would when I was 5.

ozim 1y ago

Not criticizing is not for hiding fact you hate someone. Not criticizing is about - you see someone slipping don’t call them stupid just move on. Like if someone makes a typo in comment here on HN, no one writes how stupid they are because they might be on the phone having autocorrect breaking their typing. You don’t really show off how smart you are pointing out small mistakes. Hating someone requires that they somehow wronged you. There was nothing in the book about being nice for someone who is swearing at you or punched you in the face.

koakuma-chan 1y ago
Whether someone is swearing at me or punched me in the face is not a factor. I believe the point of the book is that criticism tends to be taken personally. I'm sure you can guess what that implies.

ghurtado 1y ago

> Winning by Jack Welch Why do I get the impression that this book is very much in line with Charlie Sheen's personal philosophy?