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Redis and Elasticsearch were both built by Israelis, and there is also Israeli code in important projects like the Linux kernel. And of course, also Israeli con

Redis and Elasticsearch were both built by Israelis, and there is also Israeli code in important projects like the Linux kernel. And of course, also Israeli contributions in closed-source tech like CUDA. Avoiding all of that is a pretty tall order. But if you want to impair your systems by purifying them based on national origin of the contributors, have at it.

sudohalt 11mo ago
To the best of your ability. If you can avoid Israeli tech then do so, if you can't at least you try. Also opensource technology is different because you can verify and audit the tech
pbiggar 11mo ago
In fact Elasticsearch was specifically mentioned as a partner of the "Gaza Humanitarian Foundation", a fake aid org who caused many Palestinians to be killed under their watch. (Elasticsearch denied involvement when I contacted them) But to be more specific I would narrow it down to avoiding using any tech which Israel could use for surveillance, narrative control, or harm.
- ashdksnndck 11mo ago
  Opposing a specific organization for engaging in specific acts is a lot less objectionable than discriminating based on national origin.
  - ngcazz 11mo ago
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    - thenaturalist 11mo ago
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      - wahnfrieden 11mo ago
        So, not Nelson Mandela. Not even his own children. Why do their voices matter to you? And since you value their voices, why not his grandson's voice? Or do their voices only matter when they agree with yours? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45958241 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45958241
      - ngcazz 11mo ago
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      - RobotToaster 11mo ago
        His grandson has said it's worse than Apartheid https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/mandelas-grandson-says-palestinians-plight-is-worse-than-apartheid-2025-09-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/mandelas-grandson-...
    - boxerab 11mo ago
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  - pbiggar 11mo ago
    We're not basing on national origin, we're basing on specific participation in occupation, which is being done by the Israeli state and army.

sudohalt 11mo ago

To the best of your ability. If you can avoid Israeli tech then do so, if you can't at least you try. Also opensource technology is different because you can verify and audit the tech

pbiggar 11mo ago

In fact Elasticsearch was specifically mentioned as a partner of the "Gaza Humanitarian Foundation", a fake aid org who caused many Palestinians to be killed under their watch. (Elasticsearch denied involvement when I contacted them) But to be more specific I would narrow it down to avoiding using any tech which Israel could use for surveillance, narrative control, or harm.

ashdksnndck 11mo ago
Opposing a specific organization for engaging in specific acts is a lot less objectionable than discriminating based on national origin.
- ngcazz 11mo ago
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  - thenaturalist 11mo ago
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    - wahnfrieden 11mo ago
      So, not Nelson Mandela. Not even his own children. Why do their voices matter to you? And since you value their voices, why not his grandson's voice? Or do their voices only matter when they agree with yours? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45958241 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45958241
    - ngcazz 11mo ago
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    - RobotToaster 11mo ago
      His grandson has said it's worse than Apartheid https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/mandelas-grandson-says-palestinians-plight-is-worse-than-apartheid-2025-09-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/mandelas-grandson-...
  - boxerab 11mo ago
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- pbiggar 11mo ago
  We're not basing on national origin, we're basing on specific participation in occupation, which is being done by the Israeli state and army.