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Then standards body is Google and a bunch of companies consuming Google engine code.

dewey 1y ago
I guess you mean except Mozilla and Safari...which are the two other competing browser engines? It's not like a it's a room full of Chromium based browsers.
- Forgeties79 1y ago
  Safari yes Mozilla…are they actually competing? Like really and truly.
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    Mozilla has proven they can exist in a free market; really and truly, they do compete. Safari is what I'm concerned about. Without Apple's monopoly control, Safari is guaranteed to be a dead engine. WebKit isn't well-enough supported on Linux and Windows to compete against Blink and Gecko, which suggests that Safari is the most expendable engine of the three.
    - meindnoch 1y ago
      >Mozilla has proven they can exist in a free market; really and truly, they do compete. This gave me a superb belly laugh.
      - oblio 1y ago
        Mozilla used to compete well but that ended... at least 10 years ago?
    - noosphr 1y ago
      If your main competitor is giving you 90% of your revenue they aren't a competitor.
    - nerdponx 1y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955979 this sibling comment says it best
    - Forgeties79 1y ago
      I really can’t imagine Safari is going anywhere. Meanwhile the Mozilla Foundation has been very poorly steering the ship for several years and has rightfully earned the reputation it has garnered as a result. There’s a reason there are so many superior forks. They waste their time on the strangest pet projects. Honestly the one thing I don’t begrudge them is taking Google’s money to make them the default search engine. That’s a very easy deal with the devil to make especially because it’s so trivial to change your default search engine which I imagine a large percentage of Firefox users do with glee. But what they have focused on over the last couple of years has been very strange to watch. I know Proton gets mixed feelings around here, but to me it’s always seemed like Proton and Mozilla should be more coordinated. Feel like they could do a lot of interesting things together
- themafia 1y ago
  Do Mozilla and Safari _not_ take money from Google?

I guess you mean except Mozilla and Safari...which are the two other competing browser engines? It's not like a it's a room full of Chromium based browsers.

Forgeties79 1y ago
Safari yes Mozilla…are they actually competing? Like really and truly.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  Mozilla has proven they can exist in a free market; really and truly, they do compete. Safari is what I'm concerned about. Without Apple's monopoly control, Safari is guaranteed to be a dead engine. WebKit isn't well-enough supported on Linux and Windows to compete against Blink and Gecko, which suggests that Safari is the most expendable engine of the three.
  - meindnoch 1y ago
    >Mozilla has proven they can exist in a free market; really and truly, they do compete. This gave me a superb belly laugh.
    - oblio 1y ago
      Mozilla used to compete well but that ended... at least 10 years ago?
  - noosphr 1y ago
    If your main competitor is giving you 90% of your revenue they aren't a competitor.
  - nerdponx 1y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955979 this sibling comment says it best
  - Forgeties79 1y ago
    I really can’t imagine Safari is going anywhere. Meanwhile the Mozilla Foundation has been very poorly steering the ship for several years and has rightfully earned the reputation it has garnered as a result. There’s a reason there are so many superior forks. They waste their time on the strangest pet projects. Honestly the one thing I don’t begrudge them is taking Google’s money to make them the default search engine. That’s a very easy deal with the devil to make especially because it’s so trivial to change your default search engine which I imagine a large percentage of Firefox users do with glee. But what they have focused on over the last couple of years has been very strange to watch. I know Proton gets mixed feelings around here, but to me it’s always seemed like Proton and Mozilla should be more coordinated. Feel like they could do a lot of interesting things together
themafia 1y ago
Do Mozilla and Safari _not_ take money from Google?