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Ask Google, this project predates the LLM.

by myaccountonhn 11mo ago

saretup 11mo ago
Too small for Google to care about.
- rapnie 11mo ago
  Large tech molochs don't care about any name, it seems. Their power and weight makes the name point to them. Seek on "Amazon" and find that, oh the 7th Wonder of Nature the "Amazon rainforest" is ranked second after some random Big Tech company run by a guy named Jeff. The "lungs of the earth" vs. cheap package delivery and AWS dashboards.
  - dylan604 11mo ago
    I mean, yeah. What percentage of searches for "Amazon" in today's world do you think is going to not be about acquiring cheap shit very quickly? I would expect the tech company to be a better answer than most when someone searches for Amazon. Searching for "the amazon" gives the expected results as that's how it is more commonly referred. So it does seems like your search query as performed was just a bad search
    - immibis 11mo ago
      I bet it would be a few percent less and the world would be a fraction of a percent better if the first result was the rainforest. I wonder how much they pay Google for the top spot.
      - dylan604 11mo ago
        you'll probably find a Google expense for the same value of Amazon services so that no money ever trades hands, but both companies' valuations are inflated
      - comex 11mo ago
        Amazon does not need to pay Google for this. There is no world where Google puts an organic result about the rainforest in the top spot, because it's not what most users are looking for. At most there might be a world where Google puts someone else's ad above the organic results.
        immibis 11mo ago
        Well, we also know Google isn't trying to help the user leave Google's site as quickly as possible, because they get more ad money when the user clicks on a few pages or does a few searches before finding what they want.
ChipopLeMoral 11mo ago
Back when I was a Googler, I used to play a little game where I would think of a random word and then check if there was a Google internal project code named for it. It was a bit hard finding stuff that wasn't some system or project, and often there would be multiple ones. I actually found one that I thought would be a nice name and reserved the go link for it, but naming anything after it never panned out, when I finally got to design a system from scratch my manager wanted a boring descriptive name like "consolidated data system" (it was a bit more specific but that was the vibe). Side note: I noticed that more "boring" and less sexy projects had cooler names a lot of the time, and my theory was that people were compensating for doing unsexy work.
- morkalork 11mo ago
  Google eats their own with names. Their latest and greatest AI framewofk is Agent Development Kit (ADK). Not to be confused with the Android Development Kit...
  - kridsdale3 11mo ago
    At least the internal name of that kit is a cool name. So we should blame the Cloud marketing people who likely don't know about Android since they're Cloud people.
  - goatsi 11mo ago
    I remember a comment on here years ago from someone in GCP who mentioned that they did not control the "Cloud" namespace. So any VP could launch a new project and call it cloud something and make people very confused about why it wasn't showing up in the cloud dashboard and API.
  - mitthrowaway2 11mo ago
    Can't wait for Google to announce a humanoid robot project called "Google Android"...
  - InitialLastName 11mo ago
    Try being Microsoft and having two different LLM products and an entire office suite named Copilot.
CobrastanJorji 11mo ago
Fun fact: one of the first 10 bugs filed on the Go programming language was "Hey, I've been working on a programming language named Go for the last 10 years, please pick another name." https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9 https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9

Ask Google, this project predates the LLM.

saretup 11mo ago

Too small for Google to care about.

rapnie 11mo ago
Large tech molochs don't care about any name, it seems. Their power and weight makes the name point to them. Seek on "Amazon" and find that, oh the 7th Wonder of Nature the "Amazon rainforest" is ranked second after some random Big Tech company run by a guy named Jeff. The "lungs of the earth" vs. cheap package delivery and AWS dashboards.
- dylan604 11mo ago
  I mean, yeah. What percentage of searches for "Amazon" in today's world do you think is going to not be about acquiring cheap shit very quickly? I would expect the tech company to be a better answer than most when someone searches for Amazon. Searching for "the amazon" gives the expected results as that's how it is more commonly referred. So it does seems like your search query as performed was just a bad search
  - immibis 11mo ago
    I bet it would be a few percent less and the world would be a fraction of a percent better if the first result was the rainforest. I wonder how much they pay Google for the top spot.
    - dylan604 11mo ago
      you'll probably find a Google expense for the same value of Amazon services so that no money ever trades hands, but both companies' valuations are inflated
    - comex 11mo ago
      Amazon does not need to pay Google for this. There is no world where Google puts an organic result about the rainforest in the top spot, because it's not what most users are looking for. At most there might be a world where Google puts someone else's ad above the organic results.
      - immibis 11mo ago
        Well, we also know Google isn't trying to help the user leave Google's site as quickly as possible, because they get more ad money when the user clicks on a few pages or does a few searches before finding what they want.

ChipopLeMoral 11mo ago

Back when I was a Googler, I used to play a little game where I would think of a random word and then check if there was a Google internal project code named for it. It was a bit hard finding stuff that wasn't some system or project, and often there would be multiple ones. I actually found one that I thought would be a nice name and reserved the go link for it, but naming anything after it never panned out, when I finally got to design a system from scratch my manager wanted a boring descriptive name like "consolidated data system" (it was a bit more specific but that was the vibe). Side note: I noticed that more "boring" and less sexy projects had cooler names a lot of the time, and my theory was that people were compensating for doing unsexy work.

morkalork 11mo ago
Google eats their own with names. Their latest and greatest AI framewofk is Agent Development Kit (ADK). Not to be confused with the Android Development Kit...
- kridsdale3 11mo ago
  At least the internal name of that kit is a cool name. So we should blame the Cloud marketing people who likely don't know about Android since they're Cloud people.
- goatsi 11mo ago
  I remember a comment on here years ago from someone in GCP who mentioned that they did not control the "Cloud" namespace. So any VP could launch a new project and call it cloud something and make people very confused about why it wasn't showing up in the cloud dashboard and API.
- mitthrowaway2 11mo ago
  Can't wait for Google to announce a humanoid robot project called "Google Android"...
- InitialLastName 11mo ago
  Try being Microsoft and having two different LLM products and an entire office suite named Copilot.

CobrastanJorji 11mo ago

Fun fact: one of the first 10 bugs filed on the Go programming language was "Hey, I've been working on a programming language named Go for the last 10 years, please pick another name." https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9 https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9