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Good. Now please someone replace Google's search engine. I am always annoyed using it, how bad it is these days. Then I try the alternatives such as Duck Duck

Good. Now please someone replace Google's search engine. I am always annoyed using it, how bad it is these days. Then I try the alternatives such as Duck Duck Go and they manage to be even worse. Qwant is semi-ok but it also omits tons of things that Google Search finds (and also is slower, for some weird reason). Google's UI nerf is also annoying - so much useless stuff. In the past I could disable that via ublock origin but Google killed that for chrome. We need to do something against this Evil that Google brought into this world.

ku1ik 11mo ago
Try kagi.com. I tried and stayed. It’s paid though.
- dyml 11mo ago
  I also used Kagi, but decided to cancel my subscription last year when it was revealed they pay Yandex for their search, which is a Russian company that ultimately fuels the Russian war on Ukraine. Once Kagi stops transferring money to Russia, I’d be happy re-subscribe.
  - ramon156 11mo ago
    Do you have a source how funding yandex funds the war? Yandex is a great search engine, so I would hate to find out that this is true
    - b2ccb2 11mo ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex#Legal_issues_in_Ukraine https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/the-sad-fate-of-yandex-from-independent-tech-startup-to-kremlin-propaganda-tool
    - ninalanyon 11mo ago
      It's based in Russia so it presumably pays taxes and salaries in Russia.
      - crashmat 11mo ago
        All American companies pay taxes to America which is basically always commiting atrocities so I don't think that's a strogn enough reason on its own.
      - ipaddr 11mo ago
        .ru is but .com is based on Europe with different results for each.
  - vjvjvjvjghv 11mo ago
    I have the feeling that, if you look a little closer, a lot of products you are using are supporting atrocities somewhere directly or indirectly.
MrAlex94 11mo ago
Not quite independent as it’s a meta-search, but I developed a subscription based one at search.waterfox.net. Pays for the infrastructure costs and remains ad/tracking free.
- SyneRyder 11mo ago
  Nice! I couldn't see the list of search engines that are included in your meta-search, the FAQ currently seems to imply that it only serves Google results? If you give users the option to include / not include certain search engines in their results, so their money never goes to those particular engine companies, that could be of interest to some Kagi refugees. I ended up vibe coding my own meta-search engine (augmented with a local SQlite database of hand-picked sites) so that I could escape Kagi, but I'm excited if Waterfox Search is an alternative I can recommend to others!
  - MrAlex94 11mo ago
    Currently only Google, but Brave and Mojeek are going to be made available as well very soon
renegat0x0 11mo ago
- How many people use only Google search engine nowadays? More and more people use chatbots, with Google search. - Google search also does not provide good results for finding stuff in all walled gardens, so we also use niche search engines for individual platforms. I am not sure if it finds good results for posts in facebook and x.com - I also use my own index of pages, YouTube channels, and github pages. Contains tags, page scoring system, related links, social information like number of followers etc. https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database So in a way, it has being replaced. It just takes some time for people to switch.

ku1ik 11mo ago

Try kagi.com. I tried and stayed. It’s paid though.

dyml 11mo ago
I also used Kagi, but decided to cancel my subscription last year when it was revealed they pay Yandex for their search, which is a Russian company that ultimately fuels the Russian war on Ukraine. Once Kagi stops transferring money to Russia, I’d be happy re-subscribe.
- ramon156 11mo ago
  Do you have a source how funding yandex funds the war? Yandex is a great search engine, so I would hate to find out that this is true
  - b2ccb2 11mo ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex#Legal_issues_in_Ukraine https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/the-sad-fate-of-yandex-from-independent-tech-startup-to-kremlin-propaganda-tool
  - ninalanyon 11mo ago
    It's based in Russia so it presumably pays taxes and salaries in Russia.
    - crashmat 11mo ago
      All American companies pay taxes to America which is basically always commiting atrocities so I don't think that's a strogn enough reason on its own.
    - ipaddr 11mo ago
      .ru is but .com is based on Europe with different results for each.
- vjvjvjvjghv 11mo ago
  I have the feeling that, if you look a little closer, a lot of products you are using are supporting atrocities somewhere directly or indirectly.

MrAlex94 11mo ago

Not quite independent as it’s a meta-search, but I developed a subscription based one at search.waterfox.net. Pays for the infrastructure costs and remains ad/tracking free.

SyneRyder 11mo ago
Nice! I couldn't see the list of search engines that are included in your meta-search, the FAQ currently seems to imply that it only serves Google results? If you give users the option to include / not include certain search engines in their results, so their money never goes to those particular engine companies, that could be of interest to some Kagi refugees. I ended up vibe coding my own meta-search engine (augmented with a local SQlite database of hand-picked sites) so that I could escape Kagi, but I'm excited if Waterfox Search is an alternative I can recommend to others!
- MrAlex94 11mo ago
  Currently only Google, but Brave and Mojeek are going to be made available as well very soon

renegat0x0 11mo ago

- How many people use only Google search engine nowadays? More and more people use chatbots, with Google search. - Google search also does not provide good results for finding stuff in all walled gardens, so we also use niche search engines for individual platforms. I am not sure if it finds good results for posts in facebook and x.com - I also use my own index of pages, YouTube channels, and github pages. Contains tags, page scoring system, related links, social information like number of followers etc. https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database So in a way, it has being replaced. It just takes some time for people to switch.