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And yet their presentation do not work on standard ICS browser :)) Getting "Greetings, Mobile Champion!...." message.

by hippich 14y ago

notatoad 14y ago
The android browser is, in general, terrible. Google has partially redeemed themselves by shipping chrome as the default on JB, but right now android is the thing holding back the mobile web.
- untog 14y ago
  Unfortunately, Jelly Bean doesn't use Chrome for internal webviews. I'm playing around with a Phonegap wrapped HTML5 app and I'm blown away by how much better iOS Safari is. I though Google were supposed to be the web guys?
  - HorizonXP 14y ago
    Apparently, BlackBerry 10's browser for HTML5 based apps is going to blow both of them away.
    - notatoad 14y ago
      I'm not sure how it's going to blow safari away. Safari is roughly equivalent to the current state of the art in desktop browsers (the only glaring omission I can think of is indexedDB). If BB10 goes beyond that, it's going to be unusable anyways because it's all going to be BB specific.
      - HorizonXP 14y ago
        HTML5test.com says you're wrong. http://html5test.com/compare/browser/bb10/chromecanary/safari60.html http://html5test.com/compare/browser/bb10/chromecanary/safar...
      - untog 14y ago
        Safari could be doing more in allowing webapps to function like native ones- it has the full screen, add to home functionality, but it's not well understood or known. There's no way to register protocols to launch a full screen web app, and a series of hacks are required to stop the entire app doing the elastic "bounce" when you scroll the wrong way. Safari is good, but it could be a lot better. But I'd expect Google to be leading this charge, not Apple. But Android has basically zero integration options for webapps.
  - estel 14y ago
    In the Fireside chat at I/O they said that the JB webview was entirely Chromium based and at parity with Chrome at the time, but would not be updated on Chrome's release cycle.
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- hippich 14y ago
  It doesn't matter. This presentation not for devs, but for managers to convince them to invest into mobile technology and yet Google do not tries to do that just right there. That what was surprising for me.

And yet their presentation do not work on standard ICS browser :)) Getting "Greetings, Mobile Champion!...." message.

by hippich 14y ago

And yet their presentation do not work on standard ICS browser :)) Getting "Greetings, Mobile Champion!...." message.

The android browser is, in general, terrible. Google has partially redeemed themselves by shipping chrome as the default on JB, but right now android is the thing holding back the mobile web.

untog 14y ago
Unfortunately, Jelly Bean doesn't use Chrome for internal webviews. I'm playing around with a Phonegap wrapped HTML5 app and I'm blown away by how much better iOS Safari is. I though Google were supposed to be the web guys?
- HorizonXP 14y ago
  Apparently, BlackBerry 10's browser for HTML5 based apps is going to blow both of them away.
  - notatoad 14y ago
    I'm not sure how it's going to blow safari away. Safari is roughly equivalent to the current state of the art in desktop browsers (the only glaring omission I can think of is indexedDB). If BB10 goes beyond that, it's going to be unusable anyways because it's all going to be BB specific.
    - HorizonXP 14y ago
      HTML5test.com says you're wrong. http://html5test.com/compare/browser/bb10/chromecanary/safari60.html http://html5test.com/compare/browser/bb10/chromecanary/safar...
    - untog 14y ago
      Safari could be doing more in allowing webapps to function like native ones- it has the full screen, add to home functionality, but it's not well understood or known. There's no way to register protocols to launch a full screen web app, and a series of hacks are required to stop the entire app doing the elastic "bounce" when you scroll the wrong way. Safari is good, but it could be a lot better. But I'd expect Google to be leading this charge, not Apple. But Android has basically zero integration options for webapps.
- estel 14y ago
  In the Fireside chat at I/O they said that the JB webview was entirely Chromium based and at parity with Chrome at the time, but would not be updated on Chrome's release cycle.
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hippich 14y ago
It doesn't matter. This presentation not for devs, but for managers to convince them to invest into mobile technology and yet Google do not tries to do that just right there. That what was surprising for me.