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I agree that it's very difficult to fully understand what his real positions are, and interestingly I think he clearly wants that to be the case. Peter Thiel is

I agree that it's very difficult to fully understand what his real positions are, and interestingly I think he clearly wants that to be the case. Peter Thiel is interested in and has actually written extensively about Straussianism which is an intellectual movement obsessed with analyzing esoteric meanings in philosophical literature.

kibibu 11mo ago
Reading his recent "Greta Thunberg Is The Antichrist" stuff leads me to believe the Peter Thiel: - Is deeply unscientific, coming across as a highfalutin paranoid QAnon; and - Has zero self-awareness That said, he has plenty of money and connections, so moves like these are likely well justified.
- gsf_emergency_4 11mo ago
  Detailed perspective from someone with insight into Thiel's thinking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LakOrqDL4&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LakOrqDL4&t=1s That watched, imho Thiel is interested in the post-Straussian tension between "thinking in the open" (ideal science) and "focussed value creation" (which is best done behind closed doors) AI as driven by premium mediocre Millennials combines the worst of both: lazy group-think promoted by stochastic parrots, expensive hardware weaponized by people who didn't earn that privilege Capitalism or communism is a false dichotomy. You'd want any given pre-Jedi to access the Force, build their own lightsabers (in a cave), but not turn to the dark side. GitHub serves Midichlorians. NVDA serves the Federation (and is one of the deadly sins to boot)
  - rstuart4133 11mo ago
    > "focussed value creation" (which is best done behind closed doors) And yet, it is the most open societies that do best at value creation. It's almost as if the degree of cooperation and coordination between the individuals is more important to success than the insights of any one individual, even if they are as smart as Mr Theil believes himself to be.
    - gsf_emergency_5 11mo ago
      This suggests that things might not be as simple as that (it's a strong correlation, I admit) https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/iab8r7/social_trust_around_the_world/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/iab8r7/social_trus... (By the scale used here US is exceptionally mid)
- red-iron-pine 11mo ago
  Thiel is absolutely concerned about data mining and big picture and perceptions he doesn't believe the QAnon, he is the QAnon and is pushing stuff that he knows the base will eat up like if anyone is wearing the Mark of the Beast on their forehead it's MAGA, so get out in front of them and make sure it's pointed at the right place (e.g. Greta, et al)
- linhns 11mo ago
  I’m not sure that he will succeed with this move, but his article on Greta is absolute spot on, and I’m saying this as a guy who do not really like Peter
  - kibibu 11mo ago
    It's spot on to say that Greta Thunberg is the literal manifestation of the biblical antichrist, heralding the end of days?
    - jamesblonde 11mo ago
      See, Peter Thiel is smart. There are enough idiots who will buy his shtick - it's not just maga who get pointed in the direction he wants society to go (serfdom).
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kibibu 11mo ago

Reading his recent "Greta Thunberg Is The Antichrist" stuff leads me to believe the Peter Thiel: - Is deeply unscientific, coming across as a highfalutin paranoid QAnon; and - Has zero self-awareness That said, he has plenty of money and connections, so moves like these are likely well justified.

gsf_emergency_4 11mo ago
Detailed perspective from someone with insight into Thiel's thinking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LakOrqDL4&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LakOrqDL4&t=1s That watched, imho Thiel is interested in the post-Straussian tension between "thinking in the open" (ideal science) and "focussed value creation" (which is best done behind closed doors) AI as driven by premium mediocre Millennials combines the worst of both: lazy group-think promoted by stochastic parrots, expensive hardware weaponized by people who didn't earn that privilege Capitalism or communism is a false dichotomy. You'd want any given pre-Jedi to access the Force, build their own lightsabers (in a cave), but not turn to the dark side. GitHub serves Midichlorians. NVDA serves the Federation (and is one of the deadly sins to boot)
- rstuart4133 11mo ago
  > "focussed value creation" (which is best done behind closed doors) And yet, it is the most open societies that do best at value creation. It's almost as if the degree of cooperation and coordination between the individuals is more important to success than the insights of any one individual, even if they are as smart as Mr Theil believes himself to be.
  - gsf_emergency_5 11mo ago
    This suggests that things might not be as simple as that (it's a strong correlation, I admit) https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/iab8r7/social_trust_around_the_world/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/iab8r7/social_trus... (By the scale used here US is exceptionally mid)
red-iron-pine 11mo ago
Thiel is absolutely concerned about data mining and big picture and perceptions he doesn't believe the QAnon, he is the QAnon and is pushing stuff that he knows the base will eat up like if anyone is wearing the Mark of the Beast on their forehead it's MAGA, so get out in front of them and make sure it's pointed at the right place (e.g. Greta, et al)
linhns 11mo ago
I’m not sure that he will succeed with this move, but his article on Greta is absolute spot on, and I’m saying this as a guy who do not really like Peter
- kibibu 11mo ago
  It's spot on to say that Greta Thunberg is the literal manifestation of the biblical antichrist, heralding the end of days?
  - jamesblonde 11mo ago
    See, Peter Thiel is smart. There are enough idiots who will buy his shtick - it's not just maga who get pointed in the direction he wants society to go (serfdom).

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