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> in less than 6 years your 12 year old is a complete adult They really aren't. Brains are not close to being fully developed until the age of 25. The gift of

by jv22222 11mo ago

> in less than 6 years your 12 year old is a complete adult They really aren't. Brains are not close to being fully developed until the age of 25. The gift of "adult discipline" is quite a flawed idea. Depending on how far you take it, that's exactly the kind of thing that can create trauma, depression, low self esteem and perhaps worst can affect creativity self expression and just wanting to play. Play, undiscipline, rebelliousness, is exactly where the Apple Macintosh came from and so many other amazing technologies and ideas came from in the world. I'd say exactly the opposite, we need to find ways of removing discipline and conformity and extending play and self-expression into adult life for as long as possible as it is the foundation of so much goodness. That said, if your idea of "Adult discipline" is chock-o-block full of play and self-expression then I'm all ears.

danaris 11mo ago
> Brains are not close to being fully developed until the age of 25. Brains continue developing throughout our lifetimes. The study that appeared to show them stopping development at 25 did not have any participants older than 25. It would be convenient to have a specific age we can point to where we can say "now you're fully adult!" based on biological factors, but I'm afraid we'll just have to use our flawed human judgement and draw imperfect lines. That said, it is fairly well-understood when various of the structures and functions in the brain responsible for certain basic capacities (like discipline) first develop, on average.
- dragonwriter 11mo ago
  > The study that appeared to show them stopping development at 25 did not have any participants older than 25. Its not one study, its a multitude of studies of a different functions, and the popular conception about “brain development” not being full until the mid 20s is specifically about where multiple studies show the average peak in executive function occurs (with a slow decline after the peak, which obviously wouldn't be seen if it was only based on studies of younger people.) Other functions peak anywhere from a little earlier, to much later, to, in a few cases, continuing to develop without a discernible age-related peak.

by jv22222 11mo ago

danaris 11mo ago

> Brains are not close to being fully developed until the age of 25. Brains continue developing throughout our lifetimes. The study that appeared to show them stopping development at 25 did not have any participants older than 25. It would be convenient to have a specific age we can point to where we can say "now you're fully adult!" based on biological factors, but I'm afraid we'll just have to use our flawed human judgement and draw imperfect lines. That said, it is fairly well-understood when various of the structures and functions in the brain responsible for certain basic capacities (like discipline) first develop, on average.

dragonwriter 11mo ago
> The study that appeared to show them stopping development at 25 did not have any participants older than 25. Its not one study, its a multitude of studies of a different functions, and the popular conception about “brain development” not being full until the mid 20s is specifically about where multiple studies show the average peak in executive function occurs (with a slow decline after the peak, which obviously wouldn't be seen if it was only based on studies of younger people.) Other functions peak anywhere from a little earlier, to much later, to, in a few cases, continuing to develop without a discernible age-related peak.