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did you know that flock has a data sharing contract with ring cameras? amazon’s panopticon is much larger. i believe it is on by default and users have to manua

did you know that flock has a data sharing contract with ring cameras? amazon’s panopticon is much larger. i believe it is on by default and users have to manually opt out, but i don’t have a ring camera to verify.

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garrettlangley 11mo ago
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- vanc_cefepime 11mo ago
  Feel free to place a disclosure that you are a cofounder of Flock.
- CharlesW 11mo ago
  Only sharing specific clips is opt-in¹, but the program and its notifications are on by default. Maybe not surprisingly, consumers aren't asked if they want to participate, and the option is buried enough that most people will never see it. ¹ I'm being generous here. Police can still obtain Ring footage via warrants or "emergency" requests that don’t involve the user choosing to share anything.
  - lysace 11mo ago
    So your concern here is spam of unsolicited requests from LE to consider sharing data related to some local event?
- spaceguillotine 11mo ago
  hey, while I have you here Mr CEO, why are you comfortable allowing abusive cops the tech to stalk and harass former partners, I've met women that had ex husbands in the FBI that kept chasing them across country to continue the abuse and your camera systems help enable those acts. I hope you lose sleep like those women do.
  - extropic-engine 11mo ago
    since the flock CEO’s comment is dead, i hope you don’t mind if i reply to him here. Your wealth and power will not save you. Your rich friends will not save you. Turning off the monstrosity you are helping to create and reckoning with what you have already done in the world is the only thing that will. If there is still any shard of humanity left in you, I hope this finds it. It is not too late to turn away from the path you chose. But it soon will be. And there will be a reckoning either way.
- queenkjuul 11mo ago
  Texas cops used your data to harass abortion recipients. FBI agents used it to abuse former partners. You want to make the world safer? Shut down your company.

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garrettlangley 11mo ago

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vanc_cefepime 11mo ago
Feel free to place a disclosure that you are a cofounder of Flock.
CharlesW 11mo ago
Only sharing specific clips is opt-in¹, but the program and its notifications are on by default. Maybe not surprisingly, consumers aren't asked if they want to participate, and the option is buried enough that most people will never see it. ¹ I'm being generous here. Police can still obtain Ring footage via warrants or "emergency" requests that don’t involve the user choosing to share anything.
- lysace 11mo ago
  So your concern here is spam of unsolicited requests from LE to consider sharing data related to some local event?
spaceguillotine 11mo ago
hey, while I have you here Mr CEO, why are you comfortable allowing abusive cops the tech to stalk and harass former partners, I've met women that had ex husbands in the FBI that kept chasing them across country to continue the abuse and your camera systems help enable those acts. I hope you lose sleep like those women do.
- extropic-engine 11mo ago
  since the flock CEO’s comment is dead, i hope you don’t mind if i reply to him here. Your wealth and power will not save you. Your rich friends will not save you. Turning off the monstrosity you are helping to create and reckoning with what you have already done in the world is the only thing that will. If there is still any shard of humanity left in you, I hope this finds it. It is not too late to turn away from the path you chose. But it soon will be. And there will be a reckoning either way.
queenkjuul 11mo ago
Texas cops used your data to harass abortion recipients. FBI agents used it to abuse former partners. You want to make the world safer? Shut down your company.