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part of which spec revision? what date did it come out? and what date did airpods come out. compare the two dates. i'll wait...

Zetaphor 1y ago
The multipoint spec was added to Bluetooth 4.0 in 2010: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/core-specification-4-0/ https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/core-specific... The Battery Service 1.0 spec was officially adopted in 2011: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/battery-service-1-0/?hl=en-US https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/battery-servi... The first airpods were released in 2016... Please consider that simping for a trillion dollar company might actually not be in your best personal interests...
- dmitrygr 1y ago
  What do you mean by "multipoint spec"? I have written a few BT stacks (you might have even used one I wrote at one point or another) and I have no idea what you mean by that phrase. Please cite a section of the spec or proper name of what you are talking about.
  - Zetaphor 1y ago
    If you're such an expert then you could have likely found this even easier than I did: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/multi-profile-specification-1-0/?hl=en-US https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/multi-profile...
    - dmitrygr 1y ago
      Airpods already do this all... They support HFP and A2DP and AVRCP, and properly, including all of those features working on android phones and proper switching between them as needed...
      - Zetaphor 1y ago
        The argument (which I assume you deliberately ignored) is that those features, like battery reporting and multi device pairing, are being arbitrarily restricted by Apple to maintain a proprietary ecosystem. How you could argue that this is a good thing tells me you're either too drunk on the corporate kool-aid or that you have some financial incentive to ignore the obvious problems with these facts. Either way this is my last message in this thread as googling things for you is a bore.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        So show me in the spec where one BT device as seen by the host can report the battery of three different battery levels - ie the case and two ear pieces.
        Zetaphor 1y ago
        The obvious solution would be to report the lowest number, as multiple replies to you have already proposed, but you again chose to ignore because it doesn't serve your agenda. This entire thread started with you claiming Apple was somehow trying to prevent issues by hiding these features, and you've twice tried to move the goalposts to irrelevant points when given evidence to the contrary. If you can't even defend your original position then I have no interest in continuing a discussion with Apple's most useful idiot.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        “the lowest number” would be completely useless. What would that tell me? Do I need to charge the case? So I need to put my left pod in the fully charged case? The right one?
        Zetaphor 1y ago
        The average between the two buds then, and rely on the LED for the case. This isn't that complicated guys, other earbud manufacturers somehow figured it out, I'm sure Apple can too. Hyper-fixating on an issue with one part of the spec doesn't dismiss the larger problem being discussed. It's baffling (and kind of sad) how hard you guys feel the need to defend a trillion dollar company making obviously anti-consumer decisions.

Zetaphor 1y ago

The multipoint spec was added to Bluetooth 4.0 in 2010: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/core-specification-4-0/ https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/core-specific... The Battery Service 1.0 spec was officially adopted in 2011: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/battery-service-1-0/?hl=en-US https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/battery-servi... The first airpods were released in 2016... Please consider that simping for a trillion dollar company might actually not be in your best personal interests...

dmitrygr 1y ago
What do you mean by "multipoint spec"? I have written a few BT stacks (you might have even used one I wrote at one point or another) and I have no idea what you mean by that phrase. Please cite a section of the spec or proper name of what you are talking about.
- Zetaphor 1y ago
  If you're such an expert then you could have likely found this even easier than I did: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/multi-profile-specification-1-0/?hl=en-US https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/multi-profile...
  - dmitrygr 1y ago
    Airpods already do this all... They support HFP and A2DP and AVRCP, and properly, including all of those features working on android phones and proper switching between them as needed...
    - Zetaphor 1y ago
      The argument (which I assume you deliberately ignored) is that those features, like battery reporting and multi device pairing, are being arbitrarily restricted by Apple to maintain a proprietary ecosystem. How you could argue that this is a good thing tells me you're either too drunk on the corporate kool-aid or that you have some financial incentive to ignore the obvious problems with these facts. Either way this is my last message in this thread as googling things for you is a bore.
      - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        So show me in the spec where one BT device as seen by the host can report the battery of three different battery levels - ie the case and two ear pieces.
        Zetaphor 1y ago
        The obvious solution would be to report the lowest number, as multiple replies to you have already proposed, but you again chose to ignore because it doesn't serve your agenda. This entire thread started with you claiming Apple was somehow trying to prevent issues by hiding these features, and you've twice tried to move the goalposts to irrelevant points when given evidence to the contrary. If you can't even defend your original position then I have no interest in continuing a discussion with Apple's most useful idiot.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        “the lowest number” would be completely useless. What would that tell me? Do I need to charge the case? So I need to put my left pod in the fully charged case? The right one?
        Zetaphor 1y ago
        The average between the two buds then, and rely on the LED for the case. This isn't that complicated guys, other earbud manufacturers somehow figured it out, I'm sure Apple can too. Hyper-fixating on an issue with one part of the spec doesn't dismiss the larger problem being discussed. It's baffling (and kind of sad) how hard you guys feel the need to defend a trillion dollar company making obviously anti-consumer decisions.