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- lovich 11mo ago[flagged]
- WhaleClub 11mo ago[flagged]
- alksdjf89243 11mo agoWealth means you don't pay taxes. You don't pay fines. You don't go to jail. otherwise, there's no value in wealth and no one would do the things necessary to get and keep it. But we need people to want to get and keep it so we can incentivize people to work, otherwise, there's no reason to work. Because there is no reason to work people just don't know that.
- zdragnar 11mo agoI'm genuinely curious, what is the appropriate percentage of a person's wealth to take when they overstay at a parking meter for a few minutes?
- nandomrumber 11mo ago[flagged]
- harimau777 11mo agoKindly don't post bad faith arguments. The comment you link never mentioned "reeducation camps" and "fun fact" is a common idiom for presenting an interesting fact.
- lovich 11mo agoIf you are going to complain about bad faith arguments then I would expect you to also admonish the poster who asked me what the appropriate amount of fines for a wealthy person is when I had already stated I thought percent based fines that affected the poor and wealthy equally were the choice. That person already knew their answer and was asking a bad faith question
- harimau777 11mo agoDepends on how egregious it is and how frequently it happens. In terms of egregious: Someone staying a few minutes over when they are in a store probably shouldn't be punished at all. On the other hand, someone parking in a handycap spot or leaving their car somewhere for a day or more should probably be a reasonably stiff penalty. In terms of frequency: Perhaps start small but with an exponential increase for each time someone does it within a calendar year.
- acjohnson55 11mo agoI think a fair answer would be divide the current ticket cost by the amount of cash the average total asset value at the poverty line. Forget about net wealth, since that might well be negative.
- Spooky23 11mo agoIn my city, for a poor person, it’s about 1% of their weekly gross wage.
- lovich 11mo agoThe appropriate amount is one that makes the poor and rich alike avoid the behavior. If you set a crime with a flat fine you have only decided that it’s a cost for the rich and a barrier for the poor. You can have the opinion that this an ok and appropriate situation and I will retain my opinion of anyone who agrees with that situation
- zdragnar 11mo ago> The appropriate amount is one that makes the poor and rich alike avoid the behavior. Well, you suggested the percentage based fines, I'm curious what you think that would look like. 0.5%? 2%? Should I lose my home if I'm underwater on my mortgage?
- lovich 11mo agoDo we take your home from people who can’t pay traffic fines? I already gave you the real world example of Finland as a better system than we have now and you want to ask about if the rich would be homeless. Go look up how Finland does their % based fines for things like traffic offenses then return with specific questions if you have them. Otherwise just tell me you disagree with my statement instead of JAQing off
- anigbrowl 11mo agoIf it happens occasionally, the same as anyone else. If it's a habit, increasing amounts until they rid themselves of it.
- gishh 11mo ago> You and people like the billionaire friend the person you are replying to mentioned, are a net negative to societal cohesion Oh my. How so?