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What prevents them is the reinforced cockpit door, and the passengers’ knowledge that they’ll die if they don’t stop the hijackers. The TSA just happened to be

What prevents them is the reinforced cockpit door, and the passengers’ knowledge that they’ll die if they don’t stop the hijackers. The TSA just happened to be made ac the same time as that changed.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
Guns? If you don’t have security. It’s a lot easier to overpower someone with knives than guns
- idiotsecant 11mo ago
  Are you suggesting that TSA can reliably stop being from bringing guns onboard? The only thing preventing that is that people mostly don't want to bring guns on board. It's a pointless exercise that accomplishes basically nothing .
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    Are you saying metal detectors don’t work? Why is it that absolutely every airport in the world has similar security - as well as Brightline in Florida and the Chunnel between London and France? As far as people not wanting to bring guns on planes - did you forget what country this is? 2nd Amendment people get their panties in a knot anytime they can’t bring a gun anywhere.
    - Filligree 11mo ago
      > Are you saying metal detectors don’t work? Every time they've tested it, the testers were able to get 70-80% of their weapons past the TSA; which, yes, includes guns. I don't know precisely how they achieved that, but they certainly did.
      - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
        Citation? The best I could find that you could sneak explosives through if you were sophisticated enough but nothing about sneaking guns through.
        idiotsecant 11mo ago
        https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188 https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-... DHS routinely tests TSA and they always fail spectacularly. This was just the first one on Google. You can easily find many more, this is widely reported on.
        JustExAWS 11mo ago
        You realized there has been a complete overhaul in equipment since 2017? In your citation: In the public hearing today on Capitol Hill, members pushed for the full implementation of a program using new scanning equipment that creates a 3-D image of bags, giving screeners better ability to spot possibly dangerous items Those new scanners are in 255 of the nations 432 airports https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/19/new-airport-scanners-are-better-at-spotting-liquid-explosives-but-many-airports-lack-them https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/19/new-airport-scanner...
        p_l 10mo ago
        Yes, and it's not the scanners that fail. Scanner upgrades are mostly effective against weapon smuggling, not carrying on board by determined team.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago

Guns? If you don’t have security. It’s a lot easier to overpower someone with knives than guns

idiotsecant 11mo ago
Are you suggesting that TSA can reliably stop being from bringing guns onboard? The only thing preventing that is that people mostly don't want to bring guns on board. It's a pointless exercise that accomplishes basically nothing .
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  Are you saying metal detectors don’t work? Why is it that absolutely every airport in the world has similar security - as well as Brightline in Florida and the Chunnel between London and France? As far as people not wanting to bring guns on planes - did you forget what country this is? 2nd Amendment people get their panties in a knot anytime they can’t bring a gun anywhere.
  - Filligree 11mo ago
    > Are you saying metal detectors don’t work? Every time they've tested it, the testers were able to get 70-80% of their weapons past the TSA; which, yes, includes guns. I don't know precisely how they achieved that, but they certainly did.
    - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
      Citation? The best I could find that you could sneak explosives through if you were sophisticated enough but nothing about sneaking guns through.
      - idiotsecant 11mo ago
        https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188 https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-... DHS routinely tests TSA and they always fail spectacularly. This was just the first one on Google. You can easily find many more, this is widely reported on.
        JustExAWS 11mo ago
        You realized there has been a complete overhaul in equipment since 2017? In your citation: In the public hearing today on Capitol Hill, members pushed for the full implementation of a program using new scanning equipment that creates a 3-D image of bags, giving screeners better ability to spot possibly dangerous items Those new scanners are in 255 of the nations 432 airports https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/19/new-airport-scanners-are-better-at-spotting-liquid-explosives-but-many-airports-lack-them https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/19/new-airport-scanner...
        p_l 10mo ago
        Yes, and it's not the scanners that fail. Scanner upgrades are mostly effective against weapon smuggling, not carrying on board by determined team.