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Pick up artists have a negative association because they are a group of insecure people putting up a fake facade so they can focus singularly on having sex with
by badclient 14y ago
Pick up artists have a negative association because they are a group of insecure people putting up a fake facade so they can focus singularly on having sex with as many women as possible.
You've described one type of pick up artists.
Also, PUAs are as insecure and put up as much of a fascade as women in high-heels with pretty make up to hide their wrinkles.
- jpxxx 14y agoAaaand there's the misogyny.
- badclient 14y agoAnd there's another soul who doesn't grasp the definition of misogyny.
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- jpxxx 14y agoEdit: fuck it, lets play. Tell me what's wonderful about women.
- badclient 14y agoGeez where do I start? I'm not sure this is an appropriate medium to share arbitrary personal notes about myself. I will say that I've done some coaching and it isn't uncommon to run into men bitter about women due to their past break ups. The very first thing I teach em is its not healthy to do this if you hate women; not to mention you will probably have a better chance if you appreciated them(even their flaws) than walk up to one with years of built up bitterness.
- jpxxx 14y agoThat your friend keeps a literal spreadsheet of the pussy he gets is a pretty arbitrary personal note you've already shared. Zoom into the breach! Tell me what is good about the women you've dated. Just one thing, even. Be as floral as you like.
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- zerostar07 14y agoConsidering women as defenseless brainless little flowers who can only be victims is also a major form of misogyny. Would you call a woman who pursues men for sex a misandrist as well?
- jpxxx 14y agoWe're not going to play that game. Pick up artistry isn't about sex, its about power exchange with total strangers. Sex is the socially acceptable prize you win for manipulating someone you hate or resent at least as much as yourself into spending time and attention on you. It comes from a place of isolation and frustration, it has flying fuck-all to do with appreciating women or integrating them into one's life, and it doesn't solve a goddamn thing. Thinking you aren't worth someone else's time is the goddamn problem.
- zerostar07 14y agoI think the "socially acceptable" is the key here. Men who get lots of women earn social credits from both women and men (while women get slut shamed). These are relics from highly oppressive societies. So, in a sense, the PUA is a victim who uses mischievous means to earn societal status.
- badclient 14y agoI'd encourage you to have an open mind for the idea that most guys into this are in it because they are bitter and hate women. Personally it doesn't really impact me what you think and I can see how if I was expose to the same mainstream coverage and asked to form a view, it'd be similar to yours. Reading your perception of what PUAs are is similar to hearing someone describe hackers as evil people and Hacker News as a bad place.
- niete 14y agoThose are some cool talking points, bro. I am not sure they have much to do with reality though.
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- Pkeod 14y agoHow is that comparison anything related to hatred of women? A well dressed man with zero confidence is not an attractive man. A man can learn things, change his behavior, and become more confident. It is changing a pre-state to something more desirable to others. Dressing up increasing desirability as well, but behavior is by far more important than looks for how attractive men are. Is it fair to say that some women dress up to increase their attractiveness?
- Aloisius 14y agoOh the false equivalence. I'm afraid society punishes people who are disingenuous on the inside more than on the outside. It also severely punishes women who age. I'm sure you get enough validation from women which you use to justify your ways. Doesn't make you any less sleazy.