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No. I can be envious of people who are independently wealthy, and control their own time. But that is not the same feeling I have for Bezos, Musk, and other bi
by Epa095 11mo ago
No. I can be envious of people who are independently wealthy, and control their own time.
But that is not the same feeling I have for Bezos, Musk, and other billionaires. That feeling is fear. Fear for the power they have, both politically and over the economy. Fear that the rise of the oligarchie and the extreme wealth differences will be the death of democracy.
- renewiltord 11mo agoYeah, that fear is a way for you to feel envy without damaging your self-image.
- saulpw 11mo agoNo, these are orders of magnitude. It's like a short man who is 5 foot tall, standing next to a 6 foot man and feeling envy. But standing next to a 50 foot tall creature would be abjectly terrifying for any human of any height.
- renewiltord 11mo agoSure, because of physical danger. But I’ve stood next to billionaires and been at no equivalent risk.
- hammock 11mo agoWhat are the mags for (actual, observed) human height then?
- saulpw 11mo agoAll adults are mag 0 meters. Infants are mag -1 meters. Below that are zygotes. There has never been a human that's 10x taller.
- thrance 11mo agoYour armchair psychoanalysis is extremely distasteful. Can you engage with the other side without straw manning them? It is perfectly explainable for someone to fear Musk, pouring billions into influencing elections to prop up an anti-workers candidate, who runs on hate of minorities and ends up severely impoverishing the country through huge tax cuts to the wealthy and the destruction of all remaining social nets. No, I do not envy Musk. Frankly, he looks rather miserable on his own. A healthy man does not send 50 tweets a day, cheat at videogames on stream to boost his fragile ego, or consume 10 different drugs. Same thing with the others.
- renewiltord 11mo agoWe’ve had ten years of this cloaking of disgraceful sin in the language of vulnerability. It hasn’t yielded anything of value and now with hindsight we can affirmatively declare that it was an abuse of people’s desire to care for the vulnerable. I couldn’t care less for this deceit. Besides, the rest of your comment is some random screed that reveals your political inclinations as the primary motivation for your comments. This /r/MurderedByWords content is a telltale. By all means, spend half of your comment replies on dunking on some guy who isn't here as a way to flash your tribal colours.
- thrance 11mo agoI don't know what to tell you. You have decided that the entirety of the left is actually just envious of Musk and Trump, and that there's nothing else to it. That's frankly insane. I don't know what to tell you besides: no, that's not the case.
- tavavex 11mo agoWhat you said is impossible to argue against. "I said you were envious, so you are. Anything else is just you trying to cloak your envy." You already decided that everyone must secretly want to become a billionaire above all else, and the sole and exhaustive reason why all of them spew hatred towards that class of people is "they hate us cuz they aint us".
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- Epa095 11mo agoThanks for the analysis... But as I said, I have no problem facing my envy. I can be envious of independently wealthy people, and the feeling I have for billionaires is not the same. I don't know why my psyche would accept the envy for some but not for others. I also really don't feel the shame you seem to project to me regarding envy, I tvink it is a complicated emotion with good and bad sides, certainly nothing to feel ashamed of. But before I continue, is there any point continuing? From the comments so far you seem pretty settled in your believes about my emotions, and if you have decided apriori that whatever I say it's my mind defending itself, there is not much point continuing.