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People driving cars kill cats all the time. I would bet much more than self driving cars will. The overall number of cats being killed by cars will probably g

People driving cars kill cats all the time. I would bet much more than self driving cars will. The overall number of cats being killed by cars will probably go down with self driving cars. Letting your cat roam outdoors is cruelty.

rufus_foreman 11mo ago
Absolutely. And it's not just cat's. Look at the number of deer that get hit by cars every year. And like I said in another post, I saw two dead raccoons by the side of the road yesterday in the space of a few miles. Cats, dogs, deer, raccoons, bobcats, etc. should all be strictly indoor animals.
- card_zero 11mo ago
  Dammit, with this logic you're winning me over. Oh give me a home, where the buffalo roam, where the deer and the antelope play ...
- mbirth 11mo ago
  Even professional drivers of StreetView cars have documented kills under their belt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKlzDjFNEP0/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKlzDjFNEP0/
w0de0 11mo ago
Fascinating. I’ve viewed imprisoning a cat within a single set of rooms for the entirety of its life as cruelty. They wish so clearly to roam, to hunt, to mark territory and to meet other cats. A full life excels a maximally long one, no?
- Ferret7446 11mo ago
  By that logic attempting to "own" a cat is the root of the cruelty, no? Once you've committed that root cruelty, it is more cruel to imprison it in safety or allow it to roam in an environment with known dangers?
  - card_zero 11mo ago
    If they feel like it, outdoor cats are quite free to adopt secondary or tertiary owners, or set up residence in a rail station or at a grocery store, and I'm certain I could find you 20 BBC local news stories about these kind of shenanigans, "well-loved cat famous in town" sort of thing. Or "incredible journey", also common.
  - w0de0 11mo ago
    I’d disagree. As domesticated, bred familiars, the natural state of cats, as with dogs, is symbiosis with humans. They’re not wild animals in a zoo. As the common jokes go, they own us as much as we them.

rufus_foreman 11mo ago

Absolutely. And it's not just cat's. Look at the number of deer that get hit by cars every year. And like I said in another post, I saw two dead raccoons by the side of the road yesterday in the space of a few miles. Cats, dogs, deer, raccoons, bobcats, etc. should all be strictly indoor animals.

card_zero 11mo ago
Dammit, with this logic you're winning me over. Oh give me a home, where the buffalo roam, where the deer and the antelope play ...
mbirth 11mo ago
Even professional drivers of StreetView cars have documented kills under their belt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKlzDjFNEP0/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKlzDjFNEP0/

w0de0 11mo ago

Fascinating. I’ve viewed imprisoning a cat within a single set of rooms for the entirety of its life as cruelty. They wish so clearly to roam, to hunt, to mark territory and to meet other cats. A full life excels a maximally long one, no?

Ferret7446 11mo ago
By that logic attempting to "own" a cat is the root of the cruelty, no? Once you've committed that root cruelty, it is more cruel to imprison it in safety or allow it to roam in an environment with known dangers?
- card_zero 11mo ago
  If they feel like it, outdoor cats are quite free to adopt secondary or tertiary owners, or set up residence in a rail station or at a grocery store, and I'm certain I could find you 20 BBC local news stories about these kind of shenanigans, "well-loved cat famous in town" sort of thing. Or "incredible journey", also common.
- w0de0 11mo ago
  I’d disagree. As domesticated, bred familiars, the natural state of cats, as with dogs, is symbiosis with humans. They’re not wild animals in a zoo. As the common jokes go, they own us as much as we them.