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I don't know anything about Adguard, but good on the team for doing the extra digging instead of just going along with the claim. Even better that they're shari

I don't know anything about Adguard, but good on the team for doing the extra digging instead of just going along with the claim. Even better that they're sharing what they've found with everyone else.

hirako2000 11mo ago
Yes kudo. The pressure could simply be inferred as due to the arrogant trend one can observe, the editing of history.
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diebillionaires 11mo ago
yes, major respect to adguard.
econ 11mo ago
Their DNS is great. Removing websites without a good reason would quickly ruin everything for them.
- abnercoimbre 11mo ago
  I'm not well-versed in this: is AdGuard roughly equivalent to Pi-hole?
  - danek_szy 11mo ago
    Their self-hosted product (AdGuard Home) is. ;)
  - GeekyBear 11mo ago
    They do run a public DNS server that is equivalent to a Pihole. It's worth trying on devices where you can't install ad blocking software, but can change the TCP/IP settings.
  - nasduia 11mo ago
    yes, and it will happily run on a reasonable OpenWRT system such as a GL.iNet Flint 2.
  - brewtide 11mo ago
    You can also install AdGuard home as a home-assistant add-on, and then configure your router to hand that IP out as the network DNS server -- so all of your network traffic is ad blocking as soon as it hits your wifi. (like a pihole). It's pretty slick, highly recommend. (Also super useful to see what devices are reaching out to where and how frequently, custom block lists, custom local DNS entries, etc).
- dizhn 11mo ago
  Their pihole alternative is great too. Single go binary. Fantastic software.
  - ksynwa 11mo ago
    Is it open source?
    - vin047 11mo ago
      It is - GPLv3 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/blob/master/LICEN...
    - dizhn 11mo ago
      Oh yeah
- workfromspace 11mo ago
  How would they compare to NextDNS?
- 1970-01-01 11mo ago
  As a satisfied customer, I just recommended their adblockimg DNS on here a few days ago but am happy to do it again. If you really don't want to install anything, at least adblock at the DNS level. https://adguard-dns.io/en/welcome.html https://adguard-dns.io/en/welcome.html
- alickz 11mo ago
  I use their app on Android and it blocks ads system wide I would recommend it
  - spixy 11mo ago
    best thing is that it works even without their app, just change dns in settings
like_any_other 11mo ago
> doing the extra digging instead of just going along with the claim. That's the intention of intermediary liability laws - to make meritless censorship be the easy, no-risk way out. To deputize corporations to act as police under a guilty-until-proven-innocent framework.
luke727 11mo ago
Unfortunately they went along with it initially but at least they came to their senses in the end: https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586
- encroach 11mo ago
  Thanks for the context - it changes the light of the parent article.
- vin047 11mo ago
  This is why it’s better to use AdGuard only for its DNS blocking capability and not for DNS resolving - use a real resolver like unbound https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_(DNS_server) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_(DNS_server)
  - ameshkov 11mo ago
    I would advise against using unbound on the client side as this way all your DNS queries will be unencrypted and visible to your ISP. Besides that, the DNS responses can be modified, this kind of censorship is very popular and used in many countries. IMO it is safer to use a big popular DNS recursor (google, cloudflare, adguard, quad9, etc), use DoT/DoH/DoQ and maybe add some additional filtering on top of it.
- tkel 11mo ago
  Yeah, their CTO accepting and repeating the complaint at face value, in less than 10 words to justify the censorship, is not a good look https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586#issuecomment-3484083493 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586#...
  - ameshkov 11mo ago
    I tried not to share too much details while we were still in process of figuring out the details. The legal advice we got was basically “block asap or risk jail time”. Moreover, the risk would still be there even if the complainant is shady or hiding their identity. So it took us some time to do the digging and make sure that illegal content was removed which was the prerequisite to unblocking. The digging is not finished btw, we’ll later post a proper analysis of our reaction and the results of the research.

hirako2000 11mo ago

Yes kudo. The pressure could simply be inferred as due to the arrogant trend one can observe, the editing of history.

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diebillionaires 11mo ago

yes, major respect to adguard.

econ 11mo ago

Their DNS is great. Removing websites without a good reason would quickly ruin everything for them.

abnercoimbre 11mo ago
I'm not well-versed in this: is AdGuard roughly equivalent to Pi-hole?
- danek_szy 11mo ago
  Their self-hosted product (AdGuard Home) is. ;)
- GeekyBear 11mo ago
  They do run a public DNS server that is equivalent to a Pihole. It's worth trying on devices where you can't install ad blocking software, but can change the TCP/IP settings.
- nasduia 11mo ago
  yes, and it will happily run on a reasonable OpenWRT system such as a GL.iNet Flint 2.
- brewtide 11mo ago
  You can also install AdGuard home as a home-assistant add-on, and then configure your router to hand that IP out as the network DNS server -- so all of your network traffic is ad blocking as soon as it hits your wifi. (like a pihole). It's pretty slick, highly recommend. (Also super useful to see what devices are reaching out to where and how frequently, custom block lists, custom local DNS entries, etc).
dizhn 11mo ago
Their pihole alternative is great too. Single go binary. Fantastic software.
- ksynwa 11mo ago
  Is it open source?
  - vin047 11mo ago
    It is - GPLv3 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/blob/master/LICEN...
  - dizhn 11mo ago
    Oh yeah
workfromspace 11mo ago
How would they compare to NextDNS?
1970-01-01 11mo ago
As a satisfied customer, I just recommended their adblockimg DNS on here a few days ago but am happy to do it again. If you really don't want to install anything, at least adblock at the DNS level. https://adguard-dns.io/en/welcome.html https://adguard-dns.io/en/welcome.html
alickz 11mo ago
I use their app on Android and it blocks ads system wide I would recommend it
- spixy 11mo ago
  best thing is that it works even without their app, just change dns in settings

like_any_other 11mo ago

> doing the extra digging instead of just going along with the claim. That's the intention of intermediary liability laws - to make meritless censorship be the easy, no-risk way out. To deputize corporations to act as police under a guilty-until-proven-innocent framework.

luke727 11mo ago

Unfortunately they went along with it initially but at least they came to their senses in the end: https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586

encroach 11mo ago
Thanks for the context - it changes the light of the parent article.
vin047 11mo ago
This is why it’s better to use AdGuard only for its DNS blocking capability and not for DNS resolving - use a real resolver like unbound https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_(DNS_server) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_(DNS_server)
- ameshkov 11mo ago
  I would advise against using unbound on the client side as this way all your DNS queries will be unencrypted and visible to your ISP. Besides that, the DNS responses can be modified, this kind of censorship is very popular and used in many countries. IMO it is safer to use a big popular DNS recursor (google, cloudflare, adguard, quad9, etc), use DoT/DoH/DoQ and maybe add some additional filtering on top of it.
tkel 11mo ago
Yeah, their CTO accepting and repeating the complaint at face value, in less than 10 words to justify the censorship, is not a good look https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586#issuecomment-3484083493 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardFilters/issues/216586#...
- ameshkov 11mo ago
  I tried not to share too much details while we were still in process of figuring out the details. The legal advice we got was basically “block asap or risk jail time”. Moreover, the risk would still be there even if the complainant is shady or hiding their identity. So it took us some time to do the digging and make sure that illegal content was removed which was the prerequisite to unblocking. The digging is not finished btw, we’ll later post a proper analysis of our reaction and the results of the research.