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> Now they have a lot of money so not having money to pay for developers is not an excuse. NVidia is the exception to the rule when it comes to hardware compan

> Now they have a lot of money so not having money to pay for developers is not an excuse. NVidia is the exception to the rule when it comes to hardware companies paying competitive salaries for software engineers. I imagine AMD is still permeated by the attitude that software "isn't real work" and doesn't deserve more compensation, and that kind of inertia is very hard to overcome.

qcnguy 11mo ago
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- sethops1 11mo ago
  That "bad leadership" dug AMD out of hole and transformed the company into a behemoth. From under $2 a share to around $250 in eight years. I'll invest in that kind of bad leadership all day everyday.
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  - happycube 11mo ago
    Yup... the first Ryzen/EPYC chips were literally a saving throw. AMD's driver/software woes compared to nVidia make more sense when you realize they barely made it here at all.
  - _zoltan_ 11mo ago
    the two statements can be true at the same time: they can still view software developers as second class while having a great hardware vision. what OP is saying is that after a point it doesn't matter how good your HW is if your SW stack is bad.
  - qcnguy 11mo ago
    You should compare AMD vs its peers, not its even worse prior state. AMD should by all rights be a strong competitor to NVIDIA with a big chunk of the AI market. They have nearly nothing. The buck should stop at the top, but with AMD it doesn't.
  - KetoManx64 11mo ago
    This uses to be impressive, then you look at the gains that Bitcoin investors have and this is quite paltry, especially when you consider that inflation is 8-10%, per year.
- darkteflon 11mo ago
  My man, your world view is twisted by dogma. You may not personally like how she runs AMD, but Lisa Su is eminently qualified for the job. Her gender has nothing to do with this. You need to check yourself.
  - qcnguy 11mo ago
    At the CEO level there is no "qualified for the job". It's not like you can get a PhD in being a successful CEO. There is only actual success. And it's not me twisted by dogma. I'm just predicting what would happen. Do you seriously argue Su could be chucked out (very likely replaced by a man) without a giant screaming fest from the usual suspects? No way. It's the NYTA journos who'd go on the warpath and be twisted by dogma.
    - acdha 11mo ago
      You’re bringing a lot of emotion to this but not much information or a compelling argument. Perhaps you shouldn’t be leveling accusations of “screaming fest”. Also, the NYT recently ran a piece asking whether women ruined the workplace. It’s unclear why you think they would “go on the warpath” over a CEO being pushed out for business reasons.
      - qcnguy 11mo ago
        Yeah and look at the response to that article ... NYT readers couldn't believe it had been published at all. But you know what I mean. You are perceiving emotion where there isn't any, just analysis. Maybe it makes it easier for you to dismiss the point. I don't have a position in AMD and don't care what happens to them. It's just obvious what would happen and why they'd be reluctant to swap out their CEO.

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sethops1 11mo ago
That "bad leadership" dug AMD out of hole and transformed the company into a behemoth. From under $2 a share to around $250 in eight years. I'll invest in that kind of bad leadership all day everyday.
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- happycube 11mo ago
  Yup... the first Ryzen/EPYC chips were literally a saving throw. AMD's driver/software woes compared to nVidia make more sense when you realize they barely made it here at all.
- _zoltan_ 11mo ago
  the two statements can be true at the same time: they can still view software developers as second class while having a great hardware vision. what OP is saying is that after a point it doesn't matter how good your HW is if your SW stack is bad.
- qcnguy 11mo ago
  You should compare AMD vs its peers, not its even worse prior state. AMD should by all rights be a strong competitor to NVIDIA with a big chunk of the AI market. They have nearly nothing. The buck should stop at the top, but with AMD it doesn't.
- KetoManx64 11mo ago
  This uses to be impressive, then you look at the gains that Bitcoin investors have and this is quite paltry, especially when you consider that inflation is 8-10%, per year.
darkteflon 11mo ago
My man, your world view is twisted by dogma. You may not personally like how she runs AMD, but Lisa Su is eminently qualified for the job. Her gender has nothing to do with this. You need to check yourself.
- qcnguy 11mo ago
  At the CEO level there is no "qualified for the job". It's not like you can get a PhD in being a successful CEO. There is only actual success. And it's not me twisted by dogma. I'm just predicting what would happen. Do you seriously argue Su could be chucked out (very likely replaced by a man) without a giant screaming fest from the usual suspects? No way. It's the NYTA journos who'd go on the warpath and be twisted by dogma.
  - acdha 11mo ago
    You’re bringing a lot of emotion to this but not much information or a compelling argument. Perhaps you shouldn’t be leveling accusations of “screaming fest”. Also, the NYT recently ran a piece asking whether women ruined the workplace. It’s unclear why you think they would “go on the warpath” over a CEO being pushed out for business reasons.
    - qcnguy 11mo ago
      Yeah and look at the response to that article ... NYT readers couldn't believe it had been published at all. But you know what I mean. You are perceiving emotion where there isn't any, just analysis. Maybe it makes it easier for you to dismiss the point. I don't have a position in AMD and don't care what happens to them. It's just obvious what would happen and why they'd be reluctant to swap out their CEO.