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Even in Ukraine it's quite possible to code. I worked at Google with people who stayed in Ukraine after Russia started the war. I can't say they were unaffected
by praptak 11mo ago
Even in Ukraine it's quite possible to code. I worked at Google with people who stayed in Ukraine after Russia started the war. I can't say they were unaffected - there was stuff like meetings interrupted by missile alerts - but they managed to do normal work despite the ongoing war.
- berdario 11mo ago40% of the bombing victims in Gaza are under 10 years old https://msf.org.uk/article/gaza-msf-survey-shows-almost-half-people-killed-are-children https://msf.org.uk/article/gaza-msf-survey-shows-almost-half... Comparing it to the war in Ukraine ("Even in Ukraine") isn't really helpful or informative, to understand the condition under which Palestinians are surviving.
- nickff 11mo agoThe website you linked to specifies a subtly different thing from what you’re asserting: >”Forty-eight percent of the people who died from blast injuries among our colleagues' households were children and 40 percent were under 10 years old.” That is quite different from saying that “ 40% of the bombing victims in Gaza are under 10 years old”.
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- immibis 11mo agoCan you clarify the difference between "bombing victims" and "people who died from blast injuries"? I'm not seeing it.
- hdlothia 11mo agoIt says the dataset is 'colleague's households' which might be different from all of gaza.
- bruckie 11mo agoI'd assume that "victims" includes injured, not just killed.
- speakfreely 11mo agoThe "among our colleagues' households" is the key part. It's not generalizable to the whole of Gaza.
- pksebben 11mo agoThis is really splitting hairs, but i think it's: 48% of bombing victims/people who died from blast injury are children of those children 40% were under 10 years of age so .48 * .4 = 0.192 meaning roughly 20% of bomb deaths were under 10. But like if you're having this conversation you've already lost. There's no way to frame it so it's not horrific.
- tovej 11mo agoThe text does not say "of those children", the text says that 48% of the whole are children, and 40% are under 10 years. I agree it's a little ambiguous, but I read that as meaning that 40% of the total bombing victims were under 10 years.
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- dmbche 11mo agoOh boy
- JumpCrisscross 11mo ago> Comparing it to the war in Ukraine ("Even in Ukraine") isn't really helpful or informative Why not? 40% of bombing victims in Gaza are under 10. What fraction of the population is? How does that compare to Ukraine’s demographic and bombing victim distributions? These are valid questions for contextualising a conflict.
- andrepd 11mo agoUnfortunately the reality in Gaza is way more severe than the reality in Ukraine in nearly every conceivable metric: deaths, famine, buildings destroyed, farms, schools, hospitals, journalists killed, shortages (by blockade) of essential goods... And Ukraine is a massive war with over a million casualties, so imagine that.
- mcny 11mo agoJust the fact that there is now a whole generation of children who have missed over two years of school. One child missing two years of school is already a tragedy. A whole generation missing school, starving, under constant risk of violence and death, this is the first thing I think of when I think of Gaza. I'm not even a Palestine "supporter" but I will not longer support the state of Israel for any reason, even if the "good guys" come to power.
- wara23arish 11mo agoa lot of these kids are missing limbs, it breaks my heart
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- sir0010010 11mo agoHow is it more severe if the Ukraine war resulted in over a million casualties?
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- cryptoegorophy 11mo agoI have a couple of programmers currently in ukraine. Unless you are in a war zone there is low risk and life is mostly normal. Only risk right now is no electricity or getting snatched on the street to be sent to war.
- koakuma-chan 11mo agoI had a colleague in Ukraine and one day we joined the daily meeting and the team lead announced that guy is detained by that Ukranian org that abducts people. I never heard from him again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Center_of_Recruitment_and_Social_Support https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Center_of_Recruitm...
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- immibis 11mo agoPeople are concerned about Palestine because we're the ones doing it indirectly. It's not US or European troops on the ground, but it's almost entirely funded by the US and Europe and our governments fully support it and help it to keep going. Whereas the war in Sudan, while also very bad, isn't our fault. Maybe if we could get our own governments to stop bombing little children, after that we could consider intervening to stop other governments from bombing little children, but as it is, we can't even get past step 1.
- serf 11mo ago>Whereas the war in Sudan, while also very bad, isn't our fault bullshit. [0][1][2] [0]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2012/4/21/obama-urges-talks-between-rival-sudans https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2012/4/21/obama-urges-talks-b... [1]: https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/11/how-obama-betrayed-sudan/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/11/how-obama-betrayed-suda... [2]: https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/01/13/obamas-premature-easing-sanctions-sudan https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/01/13/obamas-premature-easing-...
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- hashim 11mo agoHas Sudan also been going on 70 years with the help of the Brits and active funding of the Americans, then? Have hundreds of thousands died in any country and even more expelled (ethnically cleansed) in the world since 1948 apart from Palestine? No? Then your whataboutism is childish and your deflection is obvious.