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I don't know about that, if settlers in the West Bank cop some violence then that's going to be considered well deserved. Soldiers of 'a government' committing

by Sabinus 11mo ago

I don't know about that, if settlers in the West Bank cop some violence then that's going to be considered well deserved. Soldiers of 'a government' committing murder, rape and hostage taking on a music festival is going to earn you a bit of looking away to the consequences. I don't expect them to do nothing, I expect them to come to a deal not sacrifice everything in an eternal and vain attempt to remove Israel from the map.

zhengiszen 11mo ago
What about a society glorifying children murder and rape on prisoners of war ?
cardanome 11mo ago
> I don't expect them to do nothing, I expect them to come to a deal Well that is what they did. People like you told shite like "The war ends if they release the hostages". They agreed to the first step of the peace plan. They released the hostages. They are keeping the truce. (Israel claims they killed a few soldiers but that seem to be a lie, they probably died from explosive that were already lying around). So what did it gain them? Israels keeps murdering them. People are still starving in Gaza because Israel refuses to let food in. > committing murder, rape and hostage taking This is what Israel has been doing for decades. We just call the hostages prisoners. While the Palestinians have treated their hostages as well as they could even when Gaza was starving, the bodies of the dead political prisoners Israel gave back were so mutilated from systemic torture that not even family members are able to recognize them. As for the accusation of the resistance committing systemic rape, that is just racist propaganda. Same when they justified the lynching of black people in the US with saying they raped white women. We would have video evidence if something like that had happened.
- nandomrumber 11mo ago
  > Palestinians have treated their hostages as well as they could 82 of the 251 hostages taken by Hamas on Oct 7th were killed. Give ‘em hell Netanyahu.
  - cardanome 11mo ago
    Who killed them? Israeli bombs. Netanyahu cares more about murdering Palestinians than saving his own people.
  - soulofmischief 11mo ago
    It's either a gross ignorance or gross deceit to compare those numbers to the amount of civilians who have been killed during the Palestinian genocide. A terrorist attack doesn't give you the right to ignore human rights. The international criminal court has an arrest warrant for Netanyahu. He is a war criminal. Get your facts straight.
    - nandomrumber 11mo ago
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      - soulofmischief 11mo ago
        You're not going to justify colonial genocide with whataboutism. It wasn't OK when the US did it and then called natives savages as a defense for our inhuman treatment of them, and it's not OK now that Israel is doing it. No amount of whining about Hamas will change that, especially considering Netanyahu openly funded Hamas through Qatar. You act like this conflict hasn't been perpetuated for decades. It's manufactured consent, plain and simple. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up... Hamas' actions are easily condemnable and doesn't need a mention, the only people who can't seem to understand that are the same people who seem to have a problem condemning Israel's actions. It is extremely easy to condemn both of them at once, if you start from an ethical, secular foundation.
        nandomrumber 11mo ago
        I’m not interested in condemning Israel’s actions. What radicalised me was inadvertently catching ten seconds of the killings at that Israeli dance music festival / bush doof. Palestinians could put Hamas down in an afternoon, if they wanted to. Whatever it takes.
- dlubarov 11mo ago
  > They released the hostages The deal included remains of deceased hostages, most of which were not released at the agreed 48 hour point. > they probably died from explosive that were already lying around The source behind this theory seemed to be a tweet claiming "I’m told by a source familiar", and another tweet which was explicitly speculating ("most likely due to an explosive device ..."). No evidence was offered. > While the Palestinians have treated their hostages as well as they could even when Gaza was starving A UN envoy found "clear and convincing information that some [hostages] have been subjected to various forms of conflict-related sexual violence including rape and sexualized torture and sexualized cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment". Evyatar David also appeared to be the most severely malnourished adult in Gaza, while being forced to dig his own grave.

by Sabinus 11mo ago

zhengiszen 11mo ago

What about a society glorifying children murder and rape on prisoners of war ?

cardanome 11mo ago

> I don't expect them to do nothing, I expect them to come to a deal Well that is what they did. People like you told shite like "The war ends if they release the hostages". They agreed to the first step of the peace plan. They released the hostages. They are keeping the truce. (Israel claims they killed a few soldiers but that seem to be a lie, they probably died from explosive that were already lying around). So what did it gain them? Israels keeps murdering them. People are still starving in Gaza because Israel refuses to let food in. > committing murder, rape and hostage taking This is what Israel has been doing for decades. We just call the hostages prisoners. While the Palestinians have treated their hostages as well as they could even when Gaza was starving, the bodies of the dead political prisoners Israel gave back were so mutilated from systemic torture that not even family members are able to recognize them. As for the accusation of the resistance committing systemic rape, that is just racist propaganda. Same when they justified the lynching of black people in the US with saying they raped white women. We would have video evidence if something like that had happened.

nandomrumber 11mo ago
> Palestinians have treated their hostages as well as they could 82 of the 251 hostages taken by Hamas on Oct 7th were killed. Give ‘em hell Netanyahu.
- cardanome 11mo ago
  Who killed them? Israeli bombs. Netanyahu cares more about murdering Palestinians than saving his own people.
- soulofmischief 11mo ago
  It's either a gross ignorance or gross deceit to compare those numbers to the amount of civilians who have been killed during the Palestinian genocide. A terrorist attack doesn't give you the right to ignore human rights. The international criminal court has an arrest warrant for Netanyahu. He is a war criminal. Get your facts straight.
  - nandomrumber 11mo ago
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    - soulofmischief 11mo ago
      You're not going to justify colonial genocide with whataboutism. It wasn't OK when the US did it and then called natives savages as a defense for our inhuman treatment of them, and it's not OK now that Israel is doing it. No amount of whining about Hamas will change that, especially considering Netanyahu openly funded Hamas through Qatar. You act like this conflict hasn't been perpetuated for decades. It's manufactured consent, plain and simple. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up... Hamas' actions are easily condemnable and doesn't need a mention, the only people who can't seem to understand that are the same people who seem to have a problem condemning Israel's actions. It is extremely easy to condemn both of them at once, if you start from an ethical, secular foundation.
      - nandomrumber 11mo ago
        I’m not interested in condemning Israel’s actions. What radicalised me was inadvertently catching ten seconds of the killings at that Israeli dance music festival / bush doof. Palestinians could put Hamas down in an afternoon, if they wanted to. Whatever it takes.
dlubarov 11mo ago
> They released the hostages The deal included remains of deceased hostages, most of which were not released at the agreed 48 hour point. > they probably died from explosive that were already lying around The source behind this theory seemed to be a tweet claiming "I’m told by a source familiar", and another tweet which was explicitly speculating ("most likely due to an explosive device ..."). No evidence was offered. > While the Palestinians have treated their hostages as well as they could even when Gaza was starving A UN envoy found "clear and convincing information that some [hostages] have been subjected to various forms of conflict-related sexual violence including rape and sexualized torture and sexualized cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment". Evyatar David also appeared to be the most severely malnourished adult in Gaza, while being forced to dig his own grave.