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They are not wrong, but will they also ban Cisco in their "Sovereignty Push"?

anonporridge 1y ago
Why should they? The United States honors international IP law and doesn't cheat its way into threatening domestic production of other countries like China does.
- tharne 1y ago
  > Why should they? Because bashing all things American while ignoring the threat posed by China is part of Europe's cultural DNA.
  - anonporridge 1y ago
    Ditto Russia.
  - fleischhauf 1y ago
    laughs in unhinged head of state that imposes arbitrary tarrifs on half of the world and mistakes dementia test for IQ test, says it's difficult
    - 978689757846 1y ago
      Your deranged rambling isn't too coherent, either.
- hiimkeks 1y ago
  https://archive.is/tDC0W https://archive.is/tDC0W https://archive.is/IQyBG https://archive.is/IQyBG and this was before the US elected an overt fascist
  - nguyenkien 1y ago
    archive.is down. Perhaps you mean archive.today
    - hiimkeks 11mo ago
      not for me, in .de using the DNS my ISP assigned me.
      - nguyenkien 11mo ago
        Yeah, It's back now. It's was down at the time I post that msg.
- coliveira 1y ago
  > doesn't cheat its way into threatening domestic production of other countries Can you still say this with a straight face with everything that is coming from Washington?
- steve1977 1y ago
  Mentioning Cisco the context of honoring IP is a bit ironic: http://pdp10.nocrew.org/docs/cisco.html http://pdp10.nocrew.org/docs/cisco.html
- input_sh 1y ago
  > The United States honors international IP law May I introduce you to a somewhat recent concept people like to call AI.
- thewebguyd 1y ago
  Cisco complied with the NSA PRISM program (Snowden leaks) and were putting hardware backdoors in their hardware on request from the NSA, for hardware that was destined for overseas. Sounds pretty untrustworthy to me.
  - wil421 1y ago
    So did the EU intelligence agencies and governments. You just route traffic through your neighbor so they spy for you and you do the same for them.
- kataklasm 1y ago
  Ah yes, the country that has perfected industrial espionage... https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlantic-espionage-claimed-german-wind-company https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlant...
esbranson 1y ago
No. In the 2019 EU 5G Risk Assessment and the 2020 5G Toolbox, EU regulators gave three reasons why no US vendors triggered the "high-risk supplier" designation: US vendors weren't building the 5G core in Europe; EU regulators concluded that US law does allow compelled cooperation but accompanied by independent courts, adversarial process, and statutory limits; and no European regulator found technical-assurance failures in US vendors comparable to Huawei's. If you don't like what the EU Commission is doing, you can vote them out. (Just kidding, no you can't.)

Why should they? The United States honors international IP law and doesn't cheat its way into threatening domestic production of other countries like China does.

tharne 1y ago
> Why should they? Because bashing all things American while ignoring the threat posed by China is part of Europe's cultural DNA.
- anonporridge 1y ago
  Ditto Russia.
- fleischhauf 1y ago
  laughs in unhinged head of state that imposes arbitrary tarrifs on half of the world and mistakes dementia test for IQ test, says it's difficult
  - 978689757846 1y ago
    Your deranged rambling isn't too coherent, either.
hiimkeks 1y ago
https://archive.is/tDC0W https://archive.is/tDC0W https://archive.is/IQyBG https://archive.is/IQyBG and this was before the US elected an overt fascist
- nguyenkien 1y ago
  archive.is down. Perhaps you mean archive.today
  - hiimkeks 11mo ago
    not for me, in .de using the DNS my ISP assigned me.
    - nguyenkien 11mo ago
      Yeah, It's back now. It's was down at the time I post that msg.
coliveira 1y ago
> doesn't cheat its way into threatening domestic production of other countries Can you still say this with a straight face with everything that is coming from Washington?
steve1977 1y ago
Mentioning Cisco the context of honoring IP is a bit ironic: http://pdp10.nocrew.org/docs/cisco.html http://pdp10.nocrew.org/docs/cisco.html
input_sh 1y ago
> The United States honors international IP law May I introduce you to a somewhat recent concept people like to call AI.
thewebguyd 1y ago
Cisco complied with the NSA PRISM program (Snowden leaks) and were putting hardware backdoors in their hardware on request from the NSA, for hardware that was destined for overseas. Sounds pretty untrustworthy to me.
- wil421 1y ago
  So did the EU intelligence agencies and governments. You just route traffic through your neighbor so they spy for you and you do the same for them.
kataklasm 1y ago
Ah yes, the country that has perfected industrial espionage... https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlantic-espionage-claimed-german-wind-company https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlant...

esbranson 1y ago

No. In the 2019 EU 5G Risk Assessment and the 2020 5G Toolbox, EU regulators gave three reasons why no US vendors triggered the "high-risk supplier" designation: US vendors weren't building the 5G core in Europe; EU regulators concluded that US law does allow compelled cooperation but accompanied by independent courts, adversarial process, and statutory limits; and no European regulator found technical-assurance failures in US vendors comparable to Huawei's. If you don't like what the EU Commission is doing, you can vote them out. (Just kidding, no you can't.)