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I have some idea of what the way forward is going to look like but I don't want to accelerate the development of such a dangerous technology so I haven't told a

I have some idea of what the way forward is going to look like but I don't want to accelerate the development of such a dangerous technology so I haven't told anyone about it. The people working on AI are very smart and they will solve the associated challenges soon enough. The problem of how to slow down the development of these technologies- a political problem- is much more pressing right now.

fallingfrog 11mo ago
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- ACCount37 11mo ago
  You're being downvoted for displaying the kind of overconfidence that people consider shameful. Everyone in ML has seen dozens to thousands of instances of "I have a radical new idea that will result in a total AI breakthrough" already. Ever wondered why the real breakthroughs are so few and far in between?
  - fallingfrog 11mo ago
    I know how it looks. I shouldn't have said anything- it was pointless. At any rate someone else will figure out what i know soon or already has.
    - philipwhiuk 11mo ago
      Nostradamus 2.0
      - fallingfrog 11mo ago
        Nah im just the kind of autistic that is good at solving specific kinds of problems that can be worked out through visualizing data structures
- WhammyBammy 11mo ago
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- thunky 11mo ago
  If you're so confident that your discovery will be found by someone else soon why not just share it right here and get the credit you seem to want? Otherwise why even bring it up in the first place?
  - fallingfrog 11mo ago
    No reason to risk making the humanity killing doomsday machine appear even a minute sooner, and besides, you wouldn't listen. I said something because im a fool who cant keep her mouth shut. It was reasons of emotional catharsis having no rational basis.
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chriswarbo 11mo ago
> I have some idea of what the way forward is going to look like but I don't want to accelerate the development of such a dangerous technology so I haven't told anyone about it. Ever since "AI" was named at Dartmouth, there have been very smart people thinking that their idea will be the thing which makes it work this time. Usually, those ideas work really well in-the-small (ELIZA, SHRDLU, Automated Mathematician, etc.), but don't scale to useful problem sizes. So, unless you've built a full-scale implementation of your ideas, I wouldn't put too much faith in them if I were you.
- ACCount37 11mo ago
  Far more common are ideas that don't work on any scale at all. If you have something that gives a sticky +5% at 250M scale, you might have an actual winner. Almost all new ML ideas fall well short of that.
  - fallingfrog 11mo ago
    If someone else comes along and makes the exact claim I just made, I won't believe it either
    - ACCount37 11mo ago
      Did you try any of your shit at any scale at all?
- fallingfrog 11mo ago
  999999 times out of a million you'd be right. But, I shouldn't have said anything.
ajjahs 11mo ago
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titzer 11mo ago
Let me guess, you have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain.
- fallingfrog 11mo ago
  Well it kind of sucks honestly because im never going to get any sort of recognition, but that's partly by choice and partly because I don't have the right personal connections. I 100% understand why all of you think I'm a significant fool. Thats ok. Like i said, im burying the idea. But its obvious enough that someone else will discover it soon enough.
  - titzer 11mo ago
    You literally see no irony here? You are doubling, tripling down on some idea you won't even vaguely describe to people, but you are so utterly convinced that it's right you don't appear to even admit the possibility that your idle thoughts could be wrong, or just silly. Frankly it sounds delusional and you should question yourself more often. If you're so afraid of being right that you won't even write the idea down to have another person look at it for fear it will somehow set the world on fire because of its rightness, then you should seriously consider talking to a therapist. If that comes across as an ad hominem, it isn't, and it isn't meant as an insult or a dismissal of your idea--you've actually offered no idea. Frankly, you should be a little embarrassed as you've done nothing but grouse about how smart you are, and people react negatively to that. Puffing gets us nowhere except drawing attention to yourself and gave us no new ideas or thoughts to discuss, except your ego. I'd recommend you question yourself more and talk to some people you trust about whatever it is you think you discovered.
    - fallingfrog 11mo ago
      Ugh why do you care so much? Leave me alone. The big insane statement i made was "i have some idea of what the next bit of advancement will look like". Transformers are a special case of a much more beautiful general principle ok? Go away
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yahoozoo 11mo ago
cringe
- fallingfrog 11mo ago
  Reject subtlety Embrace cringe

fallingfrog 11mo ago

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ACCount37 11mo ago
You're being downvoted for displaying the kind of overconfidence that people consider shameful. Everyone in ML has seen dozens to thousands of instances of "I have a radical new idea that will result in a total AI breakthrough" already. Ever wondered why the real breakthroughs are so few and far in between?
- fallingfrog 11mo ago
  I know how it looks. I shouldn't have said anything- it was pointless. At any rate someone else will figure out what i know soon or already has.
  - philipwhiuk 11mo ago
    Nostradamus 2.0
    - fallingfrog 11mo ago
      Nah im just the kind of autistic that is good at solving specific kinds of problems that can be worked out through visualizing data structures
WhammyBammy 11mo ago
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thunky 11mo ago
If you're so confident that your discovery will be found by someone else soon why not just share it right here and get the credit you seem to want? Otherwise why even bring it up in the first place?
- fallingfrog 11mo ago
  No reason to risk making the humanity killing doomsday machine appear even a minute sooner, and besides, you wouldn't listen. I said something because im a fool who cant keep her mouth shut. It was reasons of emotional catharsis having no rational basis.

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chriswarbo 11mo ago

> I have some idea of what the way forward is going to look like but I don't want to accelerate the development of such a dangerous technology so I haven't told anyone about it. Ever since "AI" was named at Dartmouth, there have been very smart people thinking that their idea will be the thing which makes it work this time. Usually, those ideas work really well in-the-small (ELIZA, SHRDLU, Automated Mathematician, etc.), but don't scale to useful problem sizes. So, unless you've built a full-scale implementation of your ideas, I wouldn't put too much faith in them if I were you.

ACCount37 11mo ago
Far more common are ideas that don't work on any scale at all. If you have something that gives a sticky +5% at 250M scale, you might have an actual winner. Almost all new ML ideas fall well short of that.
- fallingfrog 11mo ago
  If someone else comes along and makes the exact claim I just made, I won't believe it either
  - ACCount37 11mo ago
    Did you try any of your shit at any scale at all?
fallingfrog 11mo ago
999999 times out of a million you'd be right. But, I shouldn't have said anything.

ajjahs 11mo ago

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titzer 11mo ago

Let me guess, you have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain.

fallingfrog 11mo ago
Well it kind of sucks honestly because im never going to get any sort of recognition, but that's partly by choice and partly because I don't have the right personal connections. I 100% understand why all of you think I'm a significant fool. Thats ok. Like i said, im burying the idea. But its obvious enough that someone else will discover it soon enough.
- titzer 11mo ago
  You literally see no irony here? You are doubling, tripling down on some idea you won't even vaguely describe to people, but you are so utterly convinced that it's right you don't appear to even admit the possibility that your idle thoughts could be wrong, or just silly. Frankly it sounds delusional and you should question yourself more often. If you're so afraid of being right that you won't even write the idea down to have another person look at it for fear it will somehow set the world on fire because of its rightness, then you should seriously consider talking to a therapist. If that comes across as an ad hominem, it isn't, and it isn't meant as an insult or a dismissal of your idea--you've actually offered no idea. Frankly, you should be a little embarrassed as you've done nothing but grouse about how smart you are, and people react negatively to that. Puffing gets us nowhere except drawing attention to yourself and gave us no new ideas or thoughts to discuss, except your ego. I'd recommend you question yourself more and talk to some people you trust about whatever it is you think you discovered.
  - fallingfrog 11mo ago
    Ugh why do you care so much? Leave me alone. The big insane statement i made was "i have some idea of what the next bit of advancement will look like". Transformers are a special case of a much more beautiful general principle ok? Go away
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yahoozoo 11mo ago

cringe

fallingfrog 11mo ago
Reject subtlety Embrace cringe