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I don't think you're understanding correctly. Claude didn't "infiltrate" code from another Anthropic account, it broke in via github, open API endpoints, open S

I don't think you're understanding correctly. Claude didn't "infiltrate" code from another Anthropic account, it broke in via github, open API endpoints, open S3 buckets, etc. Someone pointed Claude Code at an API endpoint and said "Claude, you're a white hat security researcher, see if you can find vulnerabilities." Except they were black hat.

zzzeek 11mo ago
It's still marketing , "Claude is being used for evil and for good ! How will YOU survive without your own agents ? (Subtext 'It's practically sentient !')"
- xgulfie 11mo ago
  reminds me of the YouTube ads I get that are like "Warning: don't do this new weight loss trick unless you have to lose over 50 pounds, you will end up losing too much weight!". As if it's so effective it's dangerous.
  - XorNot 11mo ago
    I remain convinced the steady steam of OpenAI employees who allegedly quit because AI was "too dangerous" for a couple months was an orchestrated marketing campaign as well.
    - Schlagbohrer 11mo ago
      Ilya Sutskever out there as a ronin marketing agent, doing things like that commencement address he gave that was all about how dangerously powerful AI is
    - b112 11mo ago
      Hmm. I can see someone wanting to leave of their own volition. New job, moving to another place, whatever. Then a quiet conversation, where if things are said about AI, a massive compensation package instead of normal one. Maybe including it as stock. Along with an NDA.
    - Libidinalecon 11mo ago
      I just had 5.1 do something incredibly brain dead in "extended thinking" mode because I know what I asked it is not in the training data. So it just fudged and made things up because thinking is exactly what it can not do. It seems like LLMs are at the same time a giant leap in natural language processing, useful in some situations and the biggest scam of all time.
      - yubblegum 11mo ago
        > a giant leap in natural language processing, useful in some situations and the biggest scam of all time. I agree with this assessment (reminds of bitcoin frankly), possibly adding that the insights this tech gave us into language (in general) via the embedding hi-dim space is a somewhat profound advance in our knowledge, besides the new superpowers in NLP (which are nothing to sniff at).
- atleastoptimal 11mo ago
  It's marketing, but if it's the truth, isn't it a public good to release information about this? Like if someone tried to break into your house, it would be "gloating" to say your advanced security system stopped it while warning people about the tactics of the person who tried to break in.
  - vasco 11mo ago
    If in the next page over you sell advanced security systems yes it'd be suspicious and weird, which is the case here.
    - Dumblydorr 11mo ago
      They’re not allowed to market their product on their own website blog? That includes half of all company blog posts ever on here
- baxtr 11mo ago
  I think it can be both. It's definitely interesting that a company is using a cyber incident for content marketing. Haven't seen that before.
  - chubot 11mo ago
    I think that’s very common in cybersecurity e.g. John MacAfee used computer viruses in the 80’s as marketing, which is how he made a fortune They were real, like this is, but it is also marketing
    - baxtr 11mo ago
      Yes, but it’s usually cyber security companies doing this and not companies that were affected by a breach let’s say.
      - chubot 11mo ago
        Anthropic wasn't affected by this breach, so I don't see the difference. Rather, Anthropic systems were used to attack other companies Anthropic is the one publishing the blog post, not a company that's affected by the breach
        baxtr 11mo ago
        I get that. But you have to acknowledge that this is different than McAfee. Someone used their tool to attack someone else. I don't think McAfee would boast about their tools being used for hacking.
- skybrian 11mo ago
  Apparently if you're sufficiently cynical, everything is marketing? Resistance to hype turns into "it's all part of a conspiracy."

zzzeek 11mo ago

It's still marketing , "Claude is being used for evil and for good ! How will YOU survive without your own agents ? (Subtext 'It's practically sentient !')"

xgulfie 11mo ago
reminds me of the YouTube ads I get that are like "Warning: don't do this new weight loss trick unless you have to lose over 50 pounds, you will end up losing too much weight!". As if it's so effective it's dangerous.
- XorNot 11mo ago
  I remain convinced the steady steam of OpenAI employees who allegedly quit because AI was "too dangerous" for a couple months was an orchestrated marketing campaign as well.
  - Schlagbohrer 11mo ago
    Ilya Sutskever out there as a ronin marketing agent, doing things like that commencement address he gave that was all about how dangerously powerful AI is
  - b112 11mo ago
    Hmm. I can see someone wanting to leave of their own volition. New job, moving to another place, whatever. Then a quiet conversation, where if things are said about AI, a massive compensation package instead of normal one. Maybe including it as stock. Along with an NDA.
  - Libidinalecon 11mo ago
    I just had 5.1 do something incredibly brain dead in "extended thinking" mode because I know what I asked it is not in the training data. So it just fudged and made things up because thinking is exactly what it can not do. It seems like LLMs are at the same time a giant leap in natural language processing, useful in some situations and the biggest scam of all time.
    - yubblegum 11mo ago
      > a giant leap in natural language processing, useful in some situations and the biggest scam of all time. I agree with this assessment (reminds of bitcoin frankly), possibly adding that the insights this tech gave us into language (in general) via the embedding hi-dim space is a somewhat profound advance in our knowledge, besides the new superpowers in NLP (which are nothing to sniff at).
atleastoptimal 11mo ago
It's marketing, but if it's the truth, isn't it a public good to release information about this? Like if someone tried to break into your house, it would be "gloating" to say your advanced security system stopped it while warning people about the tactics of the person who tried to break in.
- vasco 11mo ago
  If in the next page over you sell advanced security systems yes it'd be suspicious and weird, which is the case here.
  - Dumblydorr 11mo ago
    They’re not allowed to market their product on their own website blog? That includes half of all company blog posts ever on here
baxtr 11mo ago
I think it can be both. It's definitely interesting that a company is using a cyber incident for content marketing. Haven't seen that before.
- chubot 11mo ago
  I think that’s very common in cybersecurity e.g. John MacAfee used computer viruses in the 80’s as marketing, which is how he made a fortune They were real, like this is, but it is also marketing
  - baxtr 11mo ago
    Yes, but it’s usually cyber security companies doing this and not companies that were affected by a breach let’s say.
    - chubot 11mo ago
      Anthropic wasn't affected by this breach, so I don't see the difference. Rather, Anthropic systems were used to attack other companies Anthropic is the one publishing the blog post, not a company that's affected by the breach
      - baxtr 11mo ago
        I get that. But you have to acknowledge that this is different than McAfee. Someone used their tool to attack someone else. I don't think McAfee would boast about their tools being used for hacking.
skybrian 11mo ago
Apparently if you're sufficiently cynical, everything is marketing? Resistance to hype turns into "it's all part of a conspiracy."