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German saunas are nude and all-genders and no one minds. So please kindly don't blame the prudes' harmfulness on queers. We can handle our and each other's nake

German saunas are nude and all-genders and no one minds. So please kindly don't blame the prudes' harmfulness on queers. We can handle our and each other's naked bodies fine, thank you.

constantcrying 1y ago
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- embedding-shape 1y ago
  Why would you say this when you clearly have no experience yourself about it? Why lie so brazenly about things you clearly don't know?
  - constantcrying 1y ago
    I am a German. I know more about the sexual norms in my country than you. FKK is something which is always associated with the boomer generation, which got their sexual norms from the American hippie culture. The whole thing is part of the "Sexboomer" phenomenon, which most of the younger generation see as extremely disgusting and creepy behavior. If you find younger people there (young meaning younger than 60) they are almost always lower class people, who like to indulge in these sexual fantasies, because they have nothing else going on in their life. If you are part of the Bürgertum, roughly "middle-class", and under 40, you want nothing to do with this. Attending is something you would keep secret and admitting it would be extremely shameful and you would get ridiculed for it. Please stop telling me what the sexual norms in my country are. In so many replies have I seen lies about this, which totally disregard how sexuality is viewed and lived out.
    - embedding-shape 1y ago
      What nationality you have really doesn't matter much when you don't seem to leave your house to actually be in society and see how other people around you act and feel. I'm not sure why you're sitting on so much inwards frustration and anger, but I'm guessing getting out and talking with other people (not through a screen) could help you a lot to get better at this.
      - constantcrying 1y ago
        But I am full time employed, active in multiple sport groups, have social hobbies and do volunteer activities. I am anything but a recluse. If you would ask any person around me, none of them would describe me as "frustrated" or "full of anger". That you can not imagine people like me, shows to me that you are contained inside a social circle, with where homogeneous opinions. Just FYI, comments like yours are likely against HN guidelines.
        embedding-shape 1y ago
        > If you would ask any person around me, none of them would describe me as "frustrated" or "full of anger". Give them this URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=constantcrying https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=constantcrying and then after they've read through what you've been commenting here on HN, ask them again, and I'm very sure you'll get a very different answers. > That you can not imagine people like me I can very much, types like yours exists everywhere :) > Just FYI, comments like yours are likely against HN guidelines. They might, yes. But I only care about you, and want you to get better, and I'm trying to help you ask the questions you should be asking yourself.
        constantcrying 1y ago
        I was accused of lying about how common my opinions are. Now you are agreeing pretty much explicitly that people like me exist "everywhere". This was exactly my point. People like me are "everywhere". I do not understand what point you are arguing here.
        embedding-shape 1y ago
        People who appear angry when they're behind psedonyms on the internet and seemingly never go outside exists everywhere. People who are afraid of nudity are a very small minority, and to again answer the question you should be asking yourself: you probably should talk with a psychiatrist or psychologist about that and your anger, because it seems to affect you in your daily life, since you're walking around being "disgusted" by very natural things.

German saunas are nude and all-genders and no one minds. So please kindly don't blame the prudes' harmfulness on queers. We can handle our and each other's naked bodies fine, thank you.

constantcrying 1y ago

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embedding-shape 1y ago
Why would you say this when you clearly have no experience yourself about it? Why lie so brazenly about things you clearly don't know?
- constantcrying 1y ago
  I am a German. I know more about the sexual norms in my country than you. FKK is something which is always associated with the boomer generation, which got their sexual norms from the American hippie culture. The whole thing is part of the "Sexboomer" phenomenon, which most of the younger generation see as extremely disgusting and creepy behavior. If you find younger people there (young meaning younger than 60) they are almost always lower class people, who like to indulge in these sexual fantasies, because they have nothing else going on in their life. If you are part of the Bürgertum, roughly "middle-class", and under 40, you want nothing to do with this. Attending is something you would keep secret and admitting it would be extremely shameful and you would get ridiculed for it. Please stop telling me what the sexual norms in my country are. In so many replies have I seen lies about this, which totally disregard how sexuality is viewed and lived out.
  - embedding-shape 1y ago
    What nationality you have really doesn't matter much when you don't seem to leave your house to actually be in society and see how other people around you act and feel. I'm not sure why you're sitting on so much inwards frustration and anger, but I'm guessing getting out and talking with other people (not through a screen) could help you a lot to get better at this.
    - constantcrying 1y ago
      But I am full time employed, active in multiple sport groups, have social hobbies and do volunteer activities. I am anything but a recluse. If you would ask any person around me, none of them would describe me as "frustrated" or "full of anger". That you can not imagine people like me, shows to me that you are contained inside a social circle, with where homogeneous opinions. Just FYI, comments like yours are likely against HN guidelines.
      - embedding-shape 1y ago
        > If you would ask any person around me, none of them would describe me as "frustrated" or "full of anger". Give them this URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=constantcrying https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=constantcrying and then after they've read through what you've been commenting here on HN, ask them again, and I'm very sure you'll get a very different answers. > That you can not imagine people like me I can very much, types like yours exists everywhere :) > Just FYI, comments like yours are likely against HN guidelines. They might, yes. But I only care about you, and want you to get better, and I'm trying to help you ask the questions you should be asking yourself.
        constantcrying 1y ago
        I was accused of lying about how common my opinions are. Now you are agreeing pretty much explicitly that people like me exist "everywhere". This was exactly my point. People like me are "everywhere". I do not understand what point you are arguing here.
        embedding-shape 1y ago
        People who appear angry when they're behind psedonyms on the internet and seemingly never go outside exists everywhere. People who are afraid of nudity are a very small minority, and to again answer the question you should be asking yourself: you probably should talk with a psychiatrist or psychologist about that and your anger, because it seems to affect you in your daily life, since you're walking around being "disgusted" by very natural things.