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They haven't built their own editor, they haven't built their own models; what have they actually built?
by CactusBlue 11mo ago
They haven't built their own editor, they haven't built their own models; what have they actually built?
- garettmd 11mo agoI mean, they have built their own model: https://cursor.com/blog/composer https://cursor.com/blog/composer And presumably they'll use the funding to build more than just a modified VSCode.
- CactusBlue 11mo agomost likely a finetune of existing model
- SkyPuncher 11mo agoAs a user, I don't care. Composer-1 is very good for routine code edits. Claude and Gemini get pulled in for hard problems and architecture.
- viraptor 11mo agoIt's more than that. They have both their own completion model and now agentic one. It's not a basic fine-tune, because it's faster than anything else available out there, so there's something interesting in the architecture itself.
- swyx 11mo agoyeah its not fair to call it a finetune because finetune carries connotation of "there wasnt that much extra compute and data added". RLFT has a lot more added to it as Sasha alluded in his talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md8D8eNj5JM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md8D8eNj5JM - the x axis is log scale, think about that the framing here is more about "why would you start from random weights when perfectly good starting weights exist" https://www.latent.space/p/fastai https://www.latent.space/p/fastai
- kelvinjps10 11mo agoWhat they the money for?
- ManuelKiessling 11mo agoWell, they delivered something that is usable and useful for me and my team, and a lot of people I know, and I guess that’s what counts in business?
- koakuma-chan 11mo agoHave you tried Zed? Cursor is terribly slow and buggy.
- CactusBlue 11mo agoI barely use the autocomplete features of Cursor, and for agentic coding, Claude Code blows Cursor Agent out of the water. I don't think Cursor has anything that cannot be replicated in a week or two other than the first mover advantage; certainly not an advantage that cannot be justified at 30B+ valuation.
- chrisweekly 11mo ago"not an advantage that cannot be justified at 30B+ valuation" cannot -> can (the extra negative negated your point)
- camdenreslink 11mo agoThat is all well and good, but I think it's a fair question in terms of valuation. What is their moat other than momentum?
- CuriouslyC 11mo agoThey don't have one. People have been calling this out for a while. They're also royally screwed since the IDE is going to cease being the place this work is done soon. Your VCS and org chat will be the new IDE.
- tintor 11mo agoI've turned off Cursor's autocomplete. Every interaction with it feels like two steps forward and two steps back.
- lacker 11mo agoSomething people want, apparently!
- warmedcookie 11mo agoEveryone starts with some building blocks, some much bigger than others in Cursor's case.
- sorcercode 11mo agothey are building their own editor (granted they didn't do it from scratch); they do build their own models (see composer); they may not have done a lot of this from scratch but there's still a lot of innovation in what they're doing. they're also building a pretty fantastic product and clearly the leader today in AI innovation for IDEs. may not be everyone's cup of tea; but i think you might be detracting some of their innovation.