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Hilarious for a commentator on college preparation to show such a lack of command of English grammar: "That last phrase is a euphemism for low-income, minority
by waffletower 11mo ago
Hilarious for a commentator on college preparation to show such a lack of command of English grammar: "That last phrase is a euphemism for low-income, minority youths whose interest K–12 education’s love affair with “equity” is intended to serve." When I was in a Humanities sequence at UC San Diego, the singular presence of such a run-on in a paper assignment would have garnered the grade of "C" regardless of surrounding context.
- alephnerd 11mo ago> the singular presence of such a run-on in a paper assignment would have garnered the grade of "C" regardless of surrounding context It wouldn't have been given a C, and I say this as someone who was a TF/TA for these kinds of classes at UCSD tier programs, and as such spent hours grading these kinds of essays. I think there are flaws with the article's argument, but your retort is not touching on those.
- waffletower 11mo agoI certainly didn't have you as a TA. Grammar was way over-emphasized -- often at the expense of content -- in my time. You are also invited to read between the lines and consider the meaning of the sentence I chose to highlight (though difficult to parse). Then perhaps you can reassess whether I addressed the content of the article beyond grammarian finger pointing.
- illiac786 11mo agoRead between the lines, really? Why would you hide your message between the lines, what’s the point? Just to make sure people misunderstand you? And yes, my grammar suck - to get back on (your) topic.
- morcus 11mo agoPunctuation conventions are not part of English grammar.
- alephnerd 11mo agoThey are, but no one is grading for punctuation aside from egregious errors.
- morcus 11mo agoThey aren't. Grammar and orthography are taught together and conflated in English education, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing.
- alephnerd 11mo agoRun-on sentences - like the one OP mentioned - are treated as a grammatical error, and the kinds of issues that lead to punctuation errors are themselves grammatical in nature (think mismanaged independent clauses). Just because OP is being snotty doesn't mean you aren't as well. If I were grading either of you guys in an academic context (which I spent sleepless nights on in my academic career) I wouldn't have given either of you guys marks on this specific question because you are ignoring the prompt and not engaging with the content.
- morcus 11mo ago> are treated as a grammatical error Perhaps by you, in one particular context (as a grader in an English class?). Your particular practice doesn't create universal truth by fiat. > I wouldn't have given either of you guys marks on this specific question This is funny, because you are arbitrarily assuming my goals are whatever yours are here. In the academic context, you're going into a random classroom and handing out grades without even checking what the assignment is.
- getnormality 11mo agoIt's not a run-on, it's a normal sentence with a moderately complex dependent clause. The only problem with this sentence I can see is that we serve people's interests, not their interest. That might be considered a grammar error - we expect plural objects (interests) for plural subjects (youths). It doesn't seem like a catastrophic one, the sentence can still be easily understood. By the way, I'm aware I'm a comma splicer. I casually break grammatical rules when I feel like making things read more like how I talk.
- strix_varius 11mo agoI copied the exact same sentence but of course someone already highlighted it! That's the worst, most tortured string of English I've read all month.