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This is wrong. The "recommended" section of the start menu is written with React Native but compiled to native XAML and not running web technologies. See also:

This is wrong. The "recommended" section of the start menu is written with React Native but compiled to native XAML and not running web technologies. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44125217

modo_mario 1y ago
Wait.....why develop that small part so differently than the rest?
- wongarsu 1y ago
  Classic case of shipping the org chart (in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big-tech-companies-plus-an-enhancement/ https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big...)
  - simoncion 1y ago
    > in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: ... To be a little glib: As someone who has worked for a few Big Software Companies, I guarantee that Microsoft's org chart has changed significantly at least once in the last fourteen years. Re-organizations aren't referred to as "shuffling the deck chairs [on the Titanic]" by the rank and file for no reason, yanno?
    - wongarsu 1y ago
      My impression from the outside is that the biggest change is that there are now a lot more and smaller circles pointing guns at each other But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. After all since some Windows 10 update the Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot (which from a kernel, fs and cmd perspective was always valid)
      - simoncion 1y ago
        > But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. Based on my experience with Blasted Corporate Hellscapes, I find it very unlikely that they cooperate better. Middle-ish management lives to stab each other in the back, belly, and face. > ...Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot... That's progress! Does Windows Explorer still shit the bed when you ask it to interact with a file whose name contains the '|' character? That's always been valid in NTFS, and I think is valid in at least a subset of the Windows programming interfaces.
    - nkrisc 1y ago
      At every large company I worked at, they began planning the next org change right after the last one concluded.
- array_key_first 1y ago
  Kind of related, but a lot of designers only understand a react point of view these days. Which is why you will see react, specifically, turn up in the most random fucking places. Every place I've worked which did not use react had steady pushback from UI/UX to move to react. It took active resistance to not use react, even though it didn't make any sense to use.
TiredOfLife 1y ago
Is that's why on a system where I removed widgets and web search results windows keeps msedgewebview2 active?
- sunaookami 1y ago
  I don't think that the activation of this process is tied to the enabled-state of any features and the recommended section/start menu in general does not even use a Webview. It may be active all the time because various parts of the OS use it (I think the settings app for MS account stuff and the Explorer for some Office 365 features?) and it's faster keeping it active instead of starting it constantly.

modo_mario 1y ago

Wait.....why develop that small part so differently than the rest?

wongarsu 1y ago
Classic case of shipping the org chart (in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big-tech-companies-plus-an-enhancement/ https://www.globalnerdy.com/2011/07/03/org-charts-of-the-big...)
- simoncion 1y ago
  > in case anyone needs a reminder of Microsoft's org chart: ... To be a little glib: As someone who has worked for a few Big Software Companies, I guarantee that Microsoft's org chart has changed significantly at least once in the last fourteen years. Re-organizations aren't referred to as "shuffling the deck chairs [on the Titanic]" by the rank and file for no reason, yanno?
  - wongarsu 1y ago
    My impression from the outside is that the biggest change is that there are now a lot more and smaller circles pointing guns at each other But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. After all since some Windows 10 update the Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot (which from a kernel, fs and cmd perspective was always valid)
    - simoncion 1y ago
      > But maybe that impression is wrong and they now cooperate better. Based on my experience with Blasted Corporate Hellscapes, I find it very unlikely that they cooperate better. Middle-ish management lives to stab each other in the back, belly, and face. > ...Windows Explorer can even create files and folders starting with a dot... That's progress! Does Windows Explorer still shit the bed when you ask it to interact with a file whose name contains the '|' character? That's always been valid in NTFS, and I think is valid in at least a subset of the Windows programming interfaces.
  - nkrisc 1y ago
    At every large company I worked at, they began planning the next org change right after the last one concluded.
array_key_first 1y ago
Kind of related, but a lot of designers only understand a react point of view these days. Which is why you will see react, specifically, turn up in the most random fucking places. Every place I've worked which did not use react had steady pushback from UI/UX to move to react. It took active resistance to not use react, even though it didn't make any sense to use.

TiredOfLife 1y ago

Is that's why on a system where I removed widgets and web search results windows keeps msedgewebview2 active?

sunaookami 1y ago
I don't think that the activation of this process is tied to the enabled-state of any features and the recommended section/start menu in general does not even use a Webview. It may be active all the time because various parts of the OS use it (I think the settings app for MS account stuff and the Explorer for some Office 365 features?) and it's faster keeping it active instead of starting it constantly.