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Probably not. Kernel level anti cheat is the problem. I know BF6 isn't proton safe. Fortnite is the same. GTA VI will probably run single player on proton fine

Probably not. Kernel level anti cheat is the problem. I know BF6 isn't proton safe. Fortnite is the same. GTA VI will probably run single player on proton fine, GTA V does. Multiplayer will probably not. The multiplayer with kernel level anti cheat will keep Sony safe through at least another generation; Microsoft is less safe as they're so vulnerable this generation anyway.

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eptcyka 11mo ago
GTA V multiplayer was working fine on Proton not too long ago. Haven't played in years though.
- pbmonster 11mo ago
  There where changes a few months ago. Multiplayer is completely non-viable since then.
rkangel 11mo ago
There's a circular opportunity though - if the SteamOS market share gets anywhere, then it might become worth it for these developers to support anti-cheat on the that platform. Some systems (notably BattleEye) actually have Linux support, they just need to enable it, but there's no incentive for them to do so.
- Kbelicius 11mo ago
  > Some systems (notably BattleEye) actually have Linux support, they just need to enable it, but there's no incentive for them to do so. This isn't really true. As GP said, there isn't a kernel level anti cheat for linux. You can switch a flick on BattleEye to run on linux but it wont be a kernel level as it is on windows. So there is an incentive for them to not turn it on because it simply is the worse version than the windows one. As far as I know even on windows you get cheats even if it is kernel level. Meaning, allowing linux you'd probably be flooded with cheaters if you already get them on windows.
  - mschuster91 11mo ago
    > Meaning, allowing linux you'd probably be flooded with cheaters if you already get them on windows. There's an easy way to not get cheaters, or at least to slow down their impact: stop making your games "free to play". When cheaters have to buy 60€ games everytime they get b&, eventually they'll run out of money.
    - Hikikomori 11mo ago
      That really doesn't stop cheaters. Tarkov EoD edition is $150 or so, cheaters still cheat on those. They cheat in cs2 with skins worth thousands.
      - array_key_first 11mo ago
        That's because there's no moderation and they don't get banned. If they got banned, they wouldn't cheat.
        Hikikomori 11mo ago
        They do get banned, what are you even talking about?
        Arrath 11mo ago
        If anything the Tarkov ban treadmill is a way to drive sales. Even if some of them get disputed as fraudulent due to stolen card numbers, BSG may still come out ahead.
        Hikikomori 11mo ago
        That's a bad conspiracy. A few k sales per month doesn't make sense for this , especially when some are fraudulent or hacked.
  - unaindz 11mo ago
- pacifika 11mo ago
  Why not, isn’t it a win/win to increase the player base? What are the downsides?
moomin 11mo ago
After the CrowdStrike debacle, it’s amazing Microsoft isn’t coming for kernel-level gaming patches.
- bzzzt 11mo ago
  I don't think kernel-level anti-cheat is a big problem on company managed PCs.

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eptcyka 11mo ago

GTA V multiplayer was working fine on Proton not too long ago. Haven't played in years though.

pbmonster 11mo ago
There where changes a few months ago. Multiplayer is completely non-viable since then.

rkangel 11mo ago

There's a circular opportunity though - if the SteamOS market share gets anywhere, then it might become worth it for these developers to support anti-cheat on the that platform. Some systems (notably BattleEye) actually have Linux support, they just need to enable it, but there's no incentive for them to do so.

Kbelicius 11mo ago
> Some systems (notably BattleEye) actually have Linux support, they just need to enable it, but there's no incentive for them to do so. This isn't really true. As GP said, there isn't a kernel level anti cheat for linux. You can switch a flick on BattleEye to run on linux but it wont be a kernel level as it is on windows. So there is an incentive for them to not turn it on because it simply is the worse version than the windows one. As far as I know even on windows you get cheats even if it is kernel level. Meaning, allowing linux you'd probably be flooded with cheaters if you already get them on windows.
- mschuster91 11mo ago
  > Meaning, allowing linux you'd probably be flooded with cheaters if you already get them on windows. There's an easy way to not get cheaters, or at least to slow down their impact: stop making your games "free to play". When cheaters have to buy 60€ games everytime they get b&, eventually they'll run out of money.
  - Hikikomori 11mo ago
    That really doesn't stop cheaters. Tarkov EoD edition is $150 or so, cheaters still cheat on those. They cheat in cs2 with skins worth thousands.
    - array_key_first 11mo ago
      That's because there's no moderation and they don't get banned. If they got banned, they wouldn't cheat.
      - Hikikomori 11mo ago
        They do get banned, what are you even talking about?
        Arrath 11mo ago
        If anything the Tarkov ban treadmill is a way to drive sales. Even if some of them get disputed as fraudulent due to stolen card numbers, BSG may still come out ahead.
        Hikikomori 11mo ago
        That's a bad conspiracy. A few k sales per month doesn't make sense for this , especially when some are fraudulent or hacked.
- unaindz 11mo ago
pacifika 11mo ago
Why not, isn’t it a win/win to increase the player base? What are the downsides?

moomin 11mo ago

After the CrowdStrike debacle, it’s amazing Microsoft isn’t coming for kernel-level gaming patches.

bzzzt 11mo ago
I don't think kernel-level anti-cheat is a big problem on company managed PCs.