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The 48 years from 1932 to 1980, maybe. The US has been decidedly conservative since Reagan. SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justic

The 48 years from 1932 to 1980, maybe. The US has been decidedly conservative since Reagan. SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justice.

infamouscow 1y ago
I'm talking about Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses#/media/File:Combined--Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_Stat...
- bediger4000 1y ago
  The only 40 year stretch on that chart is the House, from 1957-1997.
- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  Congress doesn't give them an information hegemony.
  - emchammer 1y ago
    The deals that are cut in Congress prior to votes are an imperfect information game for the public.
gdulli 1y ago
Economically "conservative", socially liberal. The richest among the right get what they want in gaining wealth from the rest, but they lose at preventing acceptance of interracial marriage, homosexuality, etc. because that social progress can't be stopped. But losing those causes is also a win for them in that they wield the fear of it to win votes to stay in power to stay rich.
jalapenos 1y ago
The US is conservative? Are we talking about the same place that's been the social justice woke ideology fountainhead since forever? The one where a man can one day declare he's now a woman because he say's so - and that'll get him on the cover of a magazine as a "hero"? What's your starting point for left - Mao?
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  Wouldn't self-determination of individuals and magazines be at home both with progressives and libertarians?
  - jalapenos 1y ago
    I mean it'd be at home with lunatic asylums too depending on what you self-determine but yeah sure
- mindslight 1y ago
  Try watching/reading less trash media? I'm not the one buying or paying attention to such magazines. I don't know why you are, especially if you apparently hate them so much. Or alternatively just get over whatever "wide stance" internal conflict you have, and come to terms with your own desires.
- bediger4000 1y ago
  Very little of that is true. We as a nation, just went through demonization of "woke" and spent a lot of effort getting rid of what DEI we had. "Woke", "DEI", "CRT", social justice and "BLM" are now officially and de facto anathema. We've had lawsuits over them, they lost. On the other hand, movement conservatism is anathema as well. Free trade is out, state's rights abandoned, except maybe as the exception that proves the rule, governmental power concentrated in Trump personally, rather than small, local government, representative democracy, lower taxes, less regulation, rule of law. Freedom of speech reduced to conservative speech getting special treatment. All also gone. Weird.
rufus_foreman 1y ago
>> SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justice The Rehnquist court made rulings that allowed burning the US flag, that made abortion even easier to get than under Roe, that upheld affirmative action, that struck down sodomy laws, and that ruled that political speech was not protected by the First Amendment. The main conservative rulings it made were minor restrictions on the commerce clause. Conservatism in the judicial branch began with the confirmation of Ed Meese as US Attorney General during Reagan's second term.

The 48 years from 1932 to 1980, maybe. The US has been decidedly conservative since Reagan. SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justice.

infamouscow 1y ago

I'm talking about Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses#/media/File:Combined--Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_Stat...

bediger4000 1y ago
The only 40 year stretch on that chart is the House, from 1957-1997.
AnimalMuppet 1y ago
Congress doesn't give them an information hegemony.
- emchammer 1y ago
  The deals that are cut in Congress prior to votes are an imperfect information game for the public.

gdulli 1y ago

Economically "conservative", socially liberal. The richest among the right get what they want in gaining wealth from the rest, but they lose at preventing acceptance of interracial marriage, homosexuality, etc. because that social progress can't be stopped. But losing those causes is also a win for them in that they wield the fear of it to win votes to stay in power to stay rich.

jalapenos 1y ago

The US is conservative? Are we talking about the same place that's been the social justice woke ideology fountainhead since forever? The one where a man can one day declare he's now a woman because he say's so - and that'll get him on the cover of a magazine as a "hero"? What's your starting point for left - Mao?

cosmicgadget 1y ago
Wouldn't self-determination of individuals and magazines be at home both with progressives and libertarians?
- jalapenos 1y ago
  I mean it'd be at home with lunatic asylums too depending on what you self-determine but yeah sure
mindslight 1y ago
Try watching/reading less trash media? I'm not the one buying or paying attention to such magazines. I don't know why you are, especially if you apparently hate them so much. Or alternatively just get over whatever "wide stance" internal conflict you have, and come to terms with your own desires.
bediger4000 1y ago
Very little of that is true. We as a nation, just went through demonization of "woke" and spent a lot of effort getting rid of what DEI we had. "Woke", "DEI", "CRT", social justice and "BLM" are now officially and de facto anathema. We've had lawsuits over them, they lost. On the other hand, movement conservatism is anathema as well. Free trade is out, state's rights abandoned, except maybe as the exception that proves the rule, governmental power concentrated in Trump personally, rather than small, local government, representative democracy, lower taxes, less regulation, rule of law. Freedom of speech reduced to conservative speech getting special treatment. All also gone. Weird.

rufus_foreman 1y ago

>> SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justice The Rehnquist court made rulings that allowed burning the US flag, that made abortion even easier to get than under Roe, that upheld affirmative action, that struck down sodomy laws, and that ruled that political speech was not protected by the First Amendment. The main conservative rulings it made were minor restrictions on the commerce clause. Conservatism in the judicial branch began with the confirmation of Ed Meese as US Attorney General during Reagan's second term.