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Fortunately, Linux laptops are getting better and better. I'm hopeful that by the time my M1 macBook Air gets slow enough to annoy me (maybe a year or two from

by bbkane 11mo ago

Fortunately, Linux laptops are getting better and better. I'm hopeful that by the time my M1 macBook Air gets slow enough to annoy me (maybe a year or two from now?), I'll be able to smoothly transition to Linux. I've already done it on the desktop!

spaceribs 11mo ago
My family have bought macs and been apple fanboys since the "Pizzabox" 6100 PowerPC. My dad handed me down a DuoDock when I was in middle school. We bought a G4 Cube, I had an iBook and Powerbook throughout college and throughout the 2010s. In 2017 I built my first desktop PC from the ground up and got it running Windows/Linux. I just removed Windows after the 11 upgrade required TPM, and I bought a brand new Framework laptop which I love. This is to say that Apple used to represent a sort of freedom to escape what used to be Microsoft's walled garden. Now it's just another dead-end closed ecosystem that I'm happy to leave behind.
- Aurornis 11mo ago
  > This is to say that Apple used to represent a sort of freedom to escape what used to be Microsoft's walled garden. Now it's just another dead-end closed ecosystem So you haven’t had a Mac since 2017, but you believe all of us using Macs are stuck in some walled garden? These comments are so weird. Gatekeeper can be turned off easily if that’s what you want. Most of us leave it on because it’s not actually a problem in practice. The homebrew change doesn’t even impact non-cask formulas.
  - kstrauser 11mo ago
    I have to agree. Number of times it’s prevented me from running software I wanted to run: zero. Number of times it’s stopped me and said the equivalent of “are you really sure?”: a handful, maybe once a year on average. And it’s not like I don’t use a gazillion third party apps and commands.
    - Aurornis 11mo ago
      Same. I can see how it would look like a major problem if your only perspective was through clickbait headlines and angry comments from people who don’t use Macs anyway, though. It reminds me of the distant cousin who lives out the countryside and prides themselves on not living in the city because the news tells them it’s a dangerous hellhole where everyone is getting mugged or shot on every street corner. When you immerse yourself in clickbait journalism the other side, whatever that may be, starts to look much worse than reality.
    - 91bananas 11mo ago
      running VMs on apple chips has been rather difficult for me. other than that, yeah.
  - PeaceTed 11mo ago
    It is said you only realise you are in jail once you feel the chains. And this is something Apple has tried to walk the line on, be locked down but in a fashion that causes the least push back on users. Personally I never felt Mac OS was that locked down, but it has been over a decade since I last used it. The only time I felt it was trying to delete 'Chess' only it to be listed as a vital system application. I know this isn't true but I would love it if Chess turned out to be a load bearing application for the entire OS. Like folks at Apple don't know why but if you remove it, everything stops.At least MS managed to remove the load bearing Space cadet pinball. Replaced it with a One drive popup that handles all memory management in the kernel ;) Back to the original point, by comparison on iOS I definetly did feel the chains. One could fear Mac OS will turn into that but they haven't conditioned people yet.
JCattheATM 11mo ago
> by the time my M1 macBook Air gets slow enough to annoy me (maybe a year or two from now?) It should be good for at least 5 years from now, if not more.
- abnercoimbre 11mo ago
  Finger crossed for mine as well!
- kybernetyk 11mo ago
  Before macOS 26 I would have agreed with you. But after Tahoe my M1 MacBook Pro feels a lot slower. Funny, there's even some regression in layer backed NSView rendering where the app I'm working on is faster (in some aspects) in a macOS 15 VM than on bare metal under macOS 26.
  - hoistbypetard 11mo ago
    Are you running any electron apps that have not yet been updated to use the most recent upstream electron? https://furbo.org/2025/10/06/tahoe-electron-detector/ https://furbo.org/2025/10/06/tahoe-electron-detector/ I've got a couple things that I use which aren't yet up-to-date, and are blocking my upgrade.
- Mashimo 11mo ago
  Probably not if you bought the 8GB version :D
  - walthamstow 11mo ago
    My 8GB M1 Air is still running as well today as the day I bought it.
    - Mashimo 11mo ago
      And it will run at the same speed. But I would guess a lot of apps will requier more ram at some point. OP said it should last for " at least 5 years from now, if not more." which I doubt. Maybe for light webbrowsing.
zackb 11mo ago
Just did this. I am so much happier. As a lifelong Apple user, and side-quest Linux user the choice is a no-brainer nowadays. Desktop Linux is honestly great now. I love(d) Apple but Tahoe was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. i use arch btw

by bbkane 11mo ago

spaceribs 11mo ago

My family have bought macs and been apple fanboys since the "Pizzabox" 6100 PowerPC. My dad handed me down a DuoDock when I was in middle school. We bought a G4 Cube, I had an iBook and Powerbook throughout college and throughout the 2010s. In 2017 I built my first desktop PC from the ground up and got it running Windows/Linux. I just removed Windows after the 11 upgrade required TPM, and I bought a brand new Framework laptop which I love. This is to say that Apple used to represent a sort of freedom to escape what used to be Microsoft's walled garden. Now it's just another dead-end closed ecosystem that I'm happy to leave behind.

Aurornis 11mo ago
> This is to say that Apple used to represent a sort of freedom to escape what used to be Microsoft's walled garden. Now it's just another dead-end closed ecosystem So you haven’t had a Mac since 2017, but you believe all of us using Macs are stuck in some walled garden? These comments are so weird. Gatekeeper can be turned off easily if that’s what you want. Most of us leave it on because it’s not actually a problem in practice. The homebrew change doesn’t even impact non-cask formulas.
- kstrauser 11mo ago
  I have to agree. Number of times it’s prevented me from running software I wanted to run: zero. Number of times it’s stopped me and said the equivalent of “are you really sure?”: a handful, maybe once a year on average. And it’s not like I don’t use a gazillion third party apps and commands.
  - Aurornis 11mo ago
    Same. I can see how it would look like a major problem if your only perspective was through clickbait headlines and angry comments from people who don’t use Macs anyway, though. It reminds me of the distant cousin who lives out the countryside and prides themselves on not living in the city because the news tells them it’s a dangerous hellhole where everyone is getting mugged or shot on every street corner. When you immerse yourself in clickbait journalism the other side, whatever that may be, starts to look much worse than reality.
  - 91bananas 11mo ago
    running VMs on apple chips has been rather difficult for me. other than that, yeah.
- PeaceTed 11mo ago
  It is said you only realise you are in jail once you feel the chains. And this is something Apple has tried to walk the line on, be locked down but in a fashion that causes the least push back on users. Personally I never felt Mac OS was that locked down, but it has been over a decade since I last used it. The only time I felt it was trying to delete 'Chess' only it to be listed as a vital system application. I know this isn't true but I would love it if Chess turned out to be a load bearing application for the entire OS. Like folks at Apple don't know why but if you remove it, everything stops.At least MS managed to remove the load bearing Space cadet pinball. Replaced it with a One drive popup that handles all memory management in the kernel ;) Back to the original point, by comparison on iOS I definetly did feel the chains. One could fear Mac OS will turn into that but they haven't conditioned people yet.

JCattheATM 11mo ago

> by the time my M1 macBook Air gets slow enough to annoy me (maybe a year or two from now?) It should be good for at least 5 years from now, if not more.

abnercoimbre 11mo ago
Finger crossed for mine as well!
kybernetyk 11mo ago
Before macOS 26 I would have agreed with you. But after Tahoe my M1 MacBook Pro feels a lot slower. Funny, there's even some regression in layer backed NSView rendering where the app I'm working on is faster (in some aspects) in a macOS 15 VM than on bare metal under macOS 26.
- hoistbypetard 11mo ago
  Are you running any electron apps that have not yet been updated to use the most recent upstream electron? https://furbo.org/2025/10/06/tahoe-electron-detector/ https://furbo.org/2025/10/06/tahoe-electron-detector/ I've got a couple things that I use which aren't yet up-to-date, and are blocking my upgrade.
Mashimo 11mo ago
Probably not if you bought the 8GB version :D
- walthamstow 11mo ago
  My 8GB M1 Air is still running as well today as the day I bought it.
  - Mashimo 11mo ago
    And it will run at the same speed. But I would guess a lot of apps will requier more ram at some point. OP said it should last for " at least 5 years from now, if not more." which I doubt. Maybe for light webbrowsing.

zackb 11mo ago

Just did this. I am so much happier. As a lifelong Apple user, and side-quest Linux user the choice is a no-brainer nowadays. Desktop Linux is honestly great now. I love(d) Apple but Tahoe was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. i use arch btw