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All my friends have moved on to PC, and I don't really want to build a $1000 minimum computer with crazy LEDs that takes up a ton of space with a monitor at thi

All my friends have moved on to PC, and I don't really want to build a $1000 minimum computer with crazy LEDs that takes up a ton of space with a monitor at this point in my life. And SteamDeck doesn't support KB+M well. I have no qualms about couch gaming with a KB+M if I can do it with my friends and my already extensive Steam library. Unless they completely drop the ball on this, I'm in.

paxys 1y ago
> and I don't really want to build a $1000 minimum computer with crazy LEDs that takes up a ton of space with a monitor at this point in my life. The beauty of a PC is you can build whatever you want. It doesn't need to be large, and doesn't need to have LEDs. There are plenty of small form factor cases on the market with the same footprint as this one.
- YuukiRey 1y ago
  The Steam Machine is smaller than any case that would be considered mainstream in the small form factor community, at least to my knowledge. The FormD T1 is around 10L for example, and would look almost comically large compared to the Steam Machine. And enthusiast cases like this are often quite expensive and not easy to get. Then you need to think about thermals, and find hardware that actually fits. You can approach it form another angle and treat it more like a NUC and get a SoC but then you're probably not going to get close in terms of gaming performance. So long story short: I disagree that it would be straight forward to build something like this on your own, at the same price point.
  - paxys 1y ago
    How are you declaring it not possible "at the same price point" when the price of this isn't even announced?
    - joseda-hg 1y ago
      At the expected pricepoint, this Steam machine can't cost too much over say a PS5 or a regular PC with comparable specs and still make sense We're more or less waiting to see if / how much is Valve willing to subsidy the price with the expectation to recoup it with software
- theshrike79 1y ago
  Yep, but you need to put insane amounts of research into figuring out which GPUs and CPU coolers can fit your small case... And then you get your case and mobo and PSU and maybe CPU and your budget is already at over 1000€ and you still need a GPU.
  - paxys 1y ago
    This is a fairly low spec device. You can comfortably fit all the hardware, case, PSU, cooling etc. in a $600-700 budget. If you want to go small form factor then it'll cost a bit extra, but not that much extra.
    - theshrike79 1y ago
      Trust me, I've tried. No success yet. Not a PC gaming expert though and I don't have infinite resources to spend on figuring out how many millimeters of space each specific case has and how long a GPU is =) But I've seen enough horror stories where someone bought a GPU or a heatsink that was like 5mm too big and didn't fit in the case without a hammer.
- bakies 1y ago
  nooo.. this is about half the size of buildable SFFPCs with discrete graphics.
Kreutzer 1y ago
I would reach out to those friend for freebie parts.
koolala 1y ago
KB+M on steam deck is fine. I'm typing this on one right now. But I am excited for Steam Machine to use for VR streaming.

paxys 1y ago

> and I don't really want to build a $1000 minimum computer with crazy LEDs that takes up a ton of space with a monitor at this point in my life. The beauty of a PC is you can build whatever you want. It doesn't need to be large, and doesn't need to have LEDs. There are plenty of small form factor cases on the market with the same footprint as this one.

YuukiRey 1y ago
The Steam Machine is smaller than any case that would be considered mainstream in the small form factor community, at least to my knowledge. The FormD T1 is around 10L for example, and would look almost comically large compared to the Steam Machine. And enthusiast cases like this are often quite expensive and not easy to get. Then you need to think about thermals, and find hardware that actually fits. You can approach it form another angle and treat it more like a NUC and get a SoC but then you're probably not going to get close in terms of gaming performance. So long story short: I disagree that it would be straight forward to build something like this on your own, at the same price point.
- paxys 1y ago
  How are you declaring it not possible "at the same price point" when the price of this isn't even announced?
  - joseda-hg 1y ago
    At the expected pricepoint, this Steam machine can't cost too much over say a PS5 or a regular PC with comparable specs and still make sense We're more or less waiting to see if / how much is Valve willing to subsidy the price with the expectation to recoup it with software
theshrike79 1y ago
Yep, but you need to put insane amounts of research into figuring out which GPUs and CPU coolers can fit your small case... And then you get your case and mobo and PSU and maybe CPU and your budget is already at over 1000€ and you still need a GPU.
- paxys 1y ago
  This is a fairly low spec device. You can comfortably fit all the hardware, case, PSU, cooling etc. in a $600-700 budget. If you want to go small form factor then it'll cost a bit extra, but not that much extra.
  - theshrike79 1y ago
    Trust me, I've tried. No success yet. Not a PC gaming expert though and I don't have infinite resources to spend on figuring out how many millimeters of space each specific case has and how long a GPU is =) But I've seen enough horror stories where someone bought a GPU or a heatsink that was like 5mm too big and didn't fit in the case without a hammer.
bakies 1y ago
nooo.. this is about half the size of buildable SFFPCs with discrete graphics.

Kreutzer 1y ago

I would reach out to those friend for freebie parts.

koolala 1y ago

KB+M on steam deck is fine. I'm typing this on one right now. But I am excited for Steam Machine to use for VR streaming.