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That's what the personality selector is for: you can just pick 'Efficient' (formerly Robot) and it does a good job of answering tersely? https://share.cleansho
by tekacs 11mo ago
That's what the personality selector is for: you can just pick 'Efficient' (formerly Robot) and it does a good job of answering tersely?
https://share.cleanshot.com/9kBDGs7Q https://share.cleanshot.com/9kBDGs7Q
- bogtog 11mo agoUnfortunately, I also don't want other people to interact with a sycophantic robot friend, yet my picker only applies to my conversation
- coolestguy 11mo agoSorry that you can't control other peoples lives & wants
- alooPotato 11mo agoso good.
- EGreg 11mo agoChatGPT 5.2: allow others to control everything about your conversations. Crowd favorite!
- DonaldPShimoda 11mo agoThis is like arguing that we shouldn't try to regulate drugs because some people might "want" the heroin that ruins their lives. The existing "personalities" of LLMs are dangerous, full stop. They are trained to generate text with an air of authority and to tend to agree with anything you tell them. It is irresponsible to allow this to continue while not at least deliberately improving education around their use. This is why we're seeing people "falling in love" with LLMs, or seeking mental health assistance from LLMs that they are unqualified to render, or plotting attacks on other people that LLMs are not sufficiently prepared to detect and thwart, and so on. I think it's a terrible position to take to argue that we should allow this behavior (and training) to continue unrestrained because some people might "want" it.
- The_Rob 11mo agoComparing LLM responses to heroine is insane.
- yunohn 11mo agoYou’re absolutely right! The number of heroine addicts is significantly lower than the number of ChatGPT users.
- thedrexster 11mo agoheroin is the drug, heroine is the damsel :)
- DonaldPShimoda 11mo agoI'm not saying they're equivalent; I'm saying that they're both dangerous, and I think taking the position that we shouldn't take any steps to prevent the danger because some people may end up thinking they "want" it is unreasonable.
- subscribed 11mo agoNo one sane uses baseline webui 'personality'. People use LLMs through specific, custom APIs, and more often than not they use fine tune models, that _assume personality_ defined by someone (be it user or service provider). Look up Tavern AI character card. I think you're fundamentally mistaken. I agree that to some users use of the specific LLMs for the specific use cases might be harmful but saying (default AI 'personality') that web ui is dangerous is laughable.
- lynx97 11mo agoI am with you. Insane comparisons are the first signs of an activist at work.
- DonaldPShimoda 11mo agoI don't know how to interpret this. Are you suggesting I'm, like, an agent of some organization? Or is "activist" meant only as a pejorative? I can't say that I identify as any sort of AI "activist" per se, whatever that word means to you, but I am vocally opposed to (the current incarnation of) LLMs to a pretty strong degree. Since this is a community forum and I am a member of the community, I think I am afforded some degree of voicing my opinions here when I feel like it.
- Leynos 11mo agoHey, you leave my sycophantic robot friend alone.
- School-Cotton 11mo agoYou’re getting downvoted but I agree with the sentiment. The fact that people want a conversational robot friend is, I think, extremely harmful and scary for humanity. Giving people what makes them feel good in the short term is not actually necessarily a good thing. See also: cigarettes, alcohol, gambling, etc.
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- kivle 11mo agoIf only that worked for conversation mode as well. At least for me, and especially when it answers me in Norwegian, it will start off with all sorts of platitudes and whole sentences repeating exactly what I just asked. "Oh, so you want to do x, huh? Here is answer for x". It's very annoying. I just want a robot to answer my question, thanks.
- qwertytyyuu 11mo agorepeating what is being asked is fine i think, sometimes is thinks you want something different to what you actually want. what is annoying is "that's and incredibly insightul question that delves into a fundamental..." type responses at the start.
- withinboredom 11mo agoAt least it gives you an answer. It usually just restates the problem for me and then ends with “so let’s work through it together!” Like, wtf.
- pants2 11mo agoFWIW I didn't like the Robot / Efficient mode because it would give very short answers without much explanation or background. "Nerdy" seems to be the best, except with GPT-5 instant it's extremely cringy like "I'm putting my nerd hat on - since you're a software engineer I'll make sure to give you the geeky details about making rice." "Low" thinking is typically the sweet spot for me - way smarter than instant with barely a delay.
- gnat 11mo agoI hate its acknowledgement of its personality prompt. Try having a series of back and forth and each response is like “got it, keeping it short and professional. Yes, there are only seven deadly sins.” You get more prompt performance than answer.
- jdelman 11mo agoThis is even worse on voice mode. It's unusable for me now.
- sheepscreek 11mo agoI like the term prompt performance; I am definitely going to use it: > prompt performance (n.) > the behaviour of a language model in which it conspicuously showcases or exaggerates how well it is following a given instruction or persona, drawing attention to its own effort rather than simply producing the requested output. :)
- jjcob 11mo agoMight be a result of using LLMs to evaluate the output of other LLMs. LLMs probably get higher scores if they explicitly state that they are following instructions...
- _23sd 11mo agoIt's like writing an essay for a standardized test, as opposed to one for a college course or for a general audience. When taking a test, you only care about the evaluation of a single grader hurrying to get through a pile of essays, so you should usually attempt to structure your essay to match the format of the scoring rubric. Doing this on an essay for a general audience would make it boring, and doing it in your college course might annoy your professor. Hopefully instruction-following evaluations don't look too much like test grading, but this kind of behavior would make some sense if they do.
- layer8 11mo agoAt least for the Thinking model it's often still a bit long-winded.
- op00to 11mo agoI use Efficient or robot or whatever. It gives me a bit of sass from time to time when I subconsciously nudge it into taking a “stand” on something, but otherwise it’s very usable compared to the obsequious base behavior.