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What do you expect to do with the steam machine that will take more than a gigabit? I mean, it's cool when things are faster, but if you can saturate the link,

What do you expect to do with the steam machine that will take more than a gigabit? I mean, it's cool when things are faster, but if you can saturate the link, downloads are still bottlenecked by the drives. And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally.

embedding-shape 1y ago
> And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally Are you talking "4k streaming" as the current streaming providers do it, with trash bitrate, or "4k streaming" as you would do it if you had ripped your own blu-ray disks and you want to stream it from a NAS somewhere else in your house to your living room?
- viraptor 1y ago
  The extreme high quality blurays are going up to 144Mbps or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray Still nowhere near a gigabit.
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- shdjhdfh 1y ago
  The highest bitrate UHD Blu-ray supports is 144mbit/s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray. A one gigabit NIC is not even close to the biggest compromise on this system.
- pvillano 1y ago
  "the average bitrate for a 4K Blu-ray DVD can range between 48Mbps to 75Mbps. Some discs can also carry around 100Mbps or even 128Mbps, but these are more rare." https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/forget-streaming-services-heres-why-im-still-buying-4k-blu-rays-in-2025 https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/forget-streaming-services-here...
- Jnr 1y ago
  Even on the high seas the large Blu-ray releases require only about 40-50Mbit, maybe you can get even larger releases (requiring ~100Mbit for streaming) but then a single movie would take up 100GB+ of space and it is such an overkill, no one really needs it.
daveoc64 1y ago
I can download at approximately 2.5 Gbps from Steam on my PC. I think not having a 2.5 gigabit port at least is a poor choice.
- coconut08 1y ago
  there is almost no one who has multigigabit internet and even for people that do, you spend significantly less than 1 percent of your time on that device downloading. its a complete non issue. this device is a midrange at best pc, so having a gigabit connection is exactly where it should be. if you want to have the best of the best build a pc.
  - hogdanish 1y ago
    That's an exaggeration. Affordable multi-gigabit fiber is widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas in the US and Europe and mid-range motherboards have included 2.5 GbE for years now and the NICs themselves are dirt cheap. I don't think it's irrational to be disappointed.
    - shadowpho 1y ago
      >Affordable multi-gigabit fiber is widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas in the US Press X to doubt, isn’t a large part of country under Comcast (aka crappy monopolistic cable)?
      - AgentME 1y ago
        I have >1 gbps service from them.
      - hogdanish 1y ago
        That's why I specified that it's widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas, not a large part of the country. Internet service absolutely is abysmal in the US as a whole, but many large cities do have affordable access to fiber.
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TheCoreh 1y ago
Games are super large nowadays. IIRC Steam uses P2P for the update downloads, so you should be able to saturate whatever link you have, and the SSD should be substantially faster than 1Gbps. So anyone that has a > 1Gbps internet connection should benefit from something higher than Gigabit.
ericd 1y ago
How are downloads bottlenecked by drives? A normal nvme drive does >20 gbit.

embedding-shape 1y ago

> And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally Are you talking "4k streaming" as the current streaming providers do it, with trash bitrate, or "4k streaming" as you would do it if you had ripped your own blu-ray disks and you want to stream it from a NAS somewhere else in your house to your living room?

viraptor 1y ago
The extreme high quality blurays are going up to 144Mbps or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray Still nowhere near a gigabit.
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shdjhdfh 1y ago
The highest bitrate UHD Blu-ray supports is 144mbit/s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray. A one gigabit NIC is not even close to the biggest compromise on this system.
pvillano 1y ago
"the average bitrate for a 4K Blu-ray DVD can range between 48Mbps to 75Mbps. Some discs can also carry around 100Mbps or even 128Mbps, but these are more rare." https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/forget-streaming-services-heres-why-im-still-buying-4k-blu-rays-in-2025 https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/forget-streaming-services-here...
Jnr 1y ago
Even on the high seas the large Blu-ray releases require only about 40-50Mbit, maybe you can get even larger releases (requiring ~100Mbit for streaming) but then a single movie would take up 100GB+ of space and it is such an overkill, no one really needs it.

daveoc64 1y ago

I can download at approximately 2.5 Gbps from Steam on my PC. I think not having a 2.5 gigabit port at least is a poor choice.

coconut08 1y ago
there is almost no one who has multigigabit internet and even for people that do, you spend significantly less than 1 percent of your time on that device downloading. its a complete non issue. this device is a midrange at best pc, so having a gigabit connection is exactly where it should be. if you want to have the best of the best build a pc.
- hogdanish 1y ago
  That's an exaggeration. Affordable multi-gigabit fiber is widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas in the US and Europe and mid-range motherboards have included 2.5 GbE for years now and the NICs themselves are dirt cheap. I don't think it's irrational to be disappointed.
  - shadowpho 1y ago
    >Affordable multi-gigabit fiber is widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas in the US Press X to doubt, isn’t a large part of country under Comcast (aka crappy monopolistic cable)?
    - AgentME 1y ago
      I have >1 gbps service from them.
    - hogdanish 1y ago
      That's why I specified that it's widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas, not a large part of the country. Internet service absolutely is abysmal in the US as a whole, but many large cities do have affordable access to fiber.
  - 1y ago

TheCoreh 1y ago

Games are super large nowadays. IIRC Steam uses P2P for the update downloads, so you should be able to saturate whatever link you have, and the SSD should be substantially faster than 1Gbps. So anyone that has a > 1Gbps internet connection should benefit from something higher than Gigabit.

ericd 1y ago

How are downloads bottlenecked by drives? A normal nvme drive does >20 gbit.