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As an aside, I've been using TSA Touchless at select airports. It's pretty slick. No ID, nor Board Pass needed. Just walk up to TSA, and only facial recognit

by alberth 11mo ago

As an aside, I've been using TSA Touchless at select airports. It's pretty slick. No ID, nor Board Pass needed. Just walk up to TSA, and only facial recognition is needed. It's extremely fast too. https://www.tsa.gov/touchless-id https://www.tsa.gov/touchless-id

SV_BubbleTime 11mo ago
Surely nothing nefarious has ever been promoted with the offer of convenience!
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BriggyDwiggs42 11mo ago
Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands.
- 0x457 11mo ago
  > Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands. When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving. I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by CBP. Also, it didn't work on me, because I left clean shaved and returned with a beard.
  - runako 11mo ago
    > I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by CBP ICE and CBP are both part of DHS. This data is going to be abused, if it is not already.
  - Klonoar 11mo ago
    > When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving. I've definitely avoided photos on exit and used it coming back in, so I'm not sure this is accurate.
    - edot 11mo ago
      Same here. I always refuse facial recognition when possible, but they had no problem using it on return from international travel. The systems aren’t linked (yet).
      - 0x457 11mo ago
        Why? They already have photos of you and your biometric data. All you're doing is slowing down the line for everyone else.
        Klonoar 11mo ago
        It doesn't slow down the line, they hold you at just about every crowded airport until the line for the luggage/body scanner are ready for the next person. Even if it did, though, I have the right to opt out, so you will wait until I've exercised my right. Deal with it. :) I reject it because I don't believe in a world where rampant facial recognition should be the norm.
        0x457 11mo ago
        When I was in Haneda airport, a machine tells you which of 4 lines to go to and if you have forgotten there is a screen with live camera feed from screen POV and little boxes drawn on top kinda above you with your line. I thought it was pretty neat, but felt super invasive. CBP facial recognition is far less invasive. It's not an instance of "rampant facial recognition" in my opinion. There is really no downside, "they" already know you might be at the airport because you booked a ticket, since most US airports don't let to the air side without a ticket. You are already on bunch of cameras inside the airport, including right when: 1) your ID verified by human or by a kiosk 2) when you drop off your bags 3) when you board the plane 4) every other time you have to show your ID or boarding pass You do you though.

by alberth 11mo ago

SV_BubbleTime 11mo ago

Surely nothing nefarious has ever been promoted with the offer of convenience!

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BriggyDwiggs42 11mo ago

Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands.

0x457 11mo ago
> Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands. When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving. I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by CBP. Also, it didn't work on me, because I left clean shaved and returned with a beard.
- runako 11mo ago
  > I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by CBP ICE and CBP are both part of DHS. This data is going to be abused, if it is not already.
- Klonoar 11mo ago
  > When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving. I've definitely avoided photos on exit and used it coming back in, so I'm not sure this is accurate.
  - edot 11mo ago
    Same here. I always refuse facial recognition when possible, but they had no problem using it on return from international travel. The systems aren’t linked (yet).
    - 0x457 11mo ago
      Why? They already have photos of you and your biometric data. All you're doing is slowing down the line for everyone else.
      - Klonoar 11mo ago
        It doesn't slow down the line, they hold you at just about every crowded airport until the line for the luggage/body scanner are ready for the next person. Even if it did, though, I have the right to opt out, so you will wait until I've exercised my right. Deal with it. :) I reject it because I don't believe in a world where rampant facial recognition should be the norm.
        0x457 11mo ago
        When I was in Haneda airport, a machine tells you which of 4 lines to go to and if you have forgotten there is a screen with live camera feed from screen POV and little boxes drawn on top kinda above you with your line. I thought it was pretty neat, but felt super invasive. CBP facial recognition is far less invasive. It's not an instance of "rampant facial recognition" in my opinion. There is really no downside, "they" already know you might be at the airport because you booked a ticket, since most US airports don't let to the air side without a ticket. You are already on bunch of cameras inside the airport, including right when: 1) your ID verified by human or by a kiosk 2) when you drop off your bags 3) when you board the plane 4) every other time you have to show your ID or boarding pass You do you though.