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"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0] It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console mark

"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0] It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console market. Even 800€ is too much imo because looking at the specs it's already not a "future proof" build, more like a previous gen gaming laptop 0, https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-hands-on-preview-specs-announcement https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-han...

cheschire 1y ago
thanks for that. The internals photos were what I was really wanting to see!
robotnikman 1y ago
Wow, the heat sink takes up most of the internal space!
- porphyra 1y ago
  Having a single big fan cool a massive heatsink (that is hopefully very quiet) can legitimately a good reason to get this over building a typical SFF PC, which often runs hot and loud. It sorta reminds me of the trashcan Mac Pro. I myself have a sandwich style case with an RTX 5070 in it which is quite loud under load.
  - rollcat 1y ago
    Yep, look at Mac Studio. Honestly I'd love to see the trashcan come back, perhaps an entirely new design but still paying homage.
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encom 1y ago
Paywalled, and also The Verge. https://archive.vn/ndOmA https://archive.vn/ndOmA
- ivanjermakov 1y ago
  What is the controversy?
tempest_ 1y ago
Unfortunately given the fact that RAM and SSD prices are going through the roof coupled with the fact that a CPU like that alone will be near 150-200 at retail this thing is going to likely cost more. The console makers have avoided these price increases by mass producing the same sku for a while now. If stocks last into 2027 they will likely remain the same price. If they don't I imagine the console prices might jump a bit too.
- agloe_dreams 1y ago
  It is basically a amd 7640u with a 7600m glued on. All together and subsidized by the store, there is no reason to think this will be more than $600, likely closer to $500.
rafaelmn 1y ago
600€ is top I would pay for this, and even then the HDMI 2.0 sucks. I get that it's a linux/amd issue with HDMI licensing but it still sucks for a media center when most TVs these days support 4k/120 VRR. I really like the controller, I think I'll pass on the device and just stream from my PC to TV.
- dbspin 1y ago
  Digital foundry have confirmed it supports 4K/120 VRR. It's actually beyond the HDMI 2.0 spec, but not listed as 2.1 as it misses out on some obscure features of the spec. Doubtful you'd get 4K 120p on too many contemporary titles with this hardware configuration though.
black_knight 1y ago
I might be the minority, but I frankly would buy it at 1000€ easily if it meant that the hardware was really good.
- taude 1y ago
  Nope, I don't think you're the minority, once people think of this as a micro itx build. Power supply integrated. That's cool. Will be curious what the actual performance is because hard to compare the custom chipsets with what's out there now.
  - black_knight 1y ago
    Yeah, I am seriously considering a small ITX build for my living room for gaming on. But this might be an alternative!
    - taude 1y ago
      my thoughts, too.
taude 1y ago
what kind of specs can we build a mini itx these days? I haven't looked into it, but the small form factor is a pretty big premium. I'm not sure I could build a ~ Raydon 7600xt micro itx build for less than $1K usd? (I haven't really looked, though). For me, I'm looking at this like a nice micro itx build, and I'd probably pay up to a grand for it. (pending final specs and performance reviews, because it's kind of hard to compare it's custom chips on paper.)
- romanovcode 1y ago
  Intel i7, 1tb ssd, 32gb ram and 3070 can fit in ITX which would be MUCH better performance than the steam box for games. Only downside is you have to install Windows of course.
  - rollcat 1y ago
    I haven't checked in detail, but I would suppose SteamOS isn't far off from running on general-purpose PCs. Else, I've heard a lot of good things about Bazzite.
    - roody15 1y ago
      SteamOS does run on regular PC’s I believe unless something has changed?
    - stepbeek 1y ago
      Nvidia drivers leave a bit to be desired on Linux imo. I’ve got an all AMD HTPC right now and bazzite is terrific.
  - jakogut 1y ago
    Why do you have to install Windows? You could put bazzite or any other distro of your choosing on this machine and have a similar experience to the official Steam Machine.
    - taude 1y ago
puzzlingcaptcha 1y ago
For 800 eur I'd rather get the cheaper Framework desktop motherboard (Ryzen AI 385) and build around that.

cheschire 1y ago

thanks for that. The internals photos were what I was really wanting to see!

robotnikman 1y ago

Wow, the heat sink takes up most of the internal space!

porphyra 1y ago
Having a single big fan cool a massive heatsink (that is hopefully very quiet) can legitimately a good reason to get this over building a typical SFF PC, which often runs hot and loud. It sorta reminds me of the trashcan Mac Pro. I myself have a sandwich style case with an RTX 5070 in it which is quite loud under load.
- rollcat 1y ago
  Yep, look at Mac Studio. Honestly I'd love to see the trashcan come back, perhaps an entirely new design but still paying homage.

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encom 1y ago

Paywalled, and also The Verge. https://archive.vn/ndOmA https://archive.vn/ndOmA

ivanjermakov 1y ago
What is the controversy?

tempest_ 1y ago

Unfortunately given the fact that RAM and SSD prices are going through the roof coupled with the fact that a CPU like that alone will be near 150-200 at retail this thing is going to likely cost more. The console makers have avoided these price increases by mass producing the same sku for a while now. If stocks last into 2027 they will likely remain the same price. If they don't I imagine the console prices might jump a bit too.

agloe_dreams 1y ago
It is basically a amd 7640u with a 7600m glued on. All together and subsidized by the store, there is no reason to think this will be more than $600, likely closer to $500.

rafaelmn 1y ago

600€ is top I would pay for this, and even then the HDMI 2.0 sucks. I get that it's a linux/amd issue with HDMI licensing but it still sucks for a media center when most TVs these days support 4k/120 VRR. I really like the controller, I think I'll pass on the device and just stream from my PC to TV.

dbspin 1y ago
Digital foundry have confirmed it supports 4K/120 VRR. It's actually beyond the HDMI 2.0 spec, but not listed as 2.1 as it misses out on some obscure features of the spec. Doubtful you'd get 4K 120p on too many contemporary titles with this hardware configuration though.

black_knight 1y ago

I might be the minority, but I frankly would buy it at 1000€ easily if it meant that the hardware was really good.

taude 1y ago
Nope, I don't think you're the minority, once people think of this as a micro itx build. Power supply integrated. That's cool. Will be curious what the actual performance is because hard to compare the custom chipsets with what's out there now.
- black_knight 1y ago
  Yeah, I am seriously considering a small ITX build for my living room for gaming on. But this might be an alternative!
  - taude 1y ago
    my thoughts, too.

taude 1y ago

what kind of specs can we build a mini itx these days? I haven't looked into it, but the small form factor is a pretty big premium. I'm not sure I could build a ~ Raydon 7600xt micro itx build for less than $1K usd? (I haven't really looked, though). For me, I'm looking at this like a nice micro itx build, and I'd probably pay up to a grand for it. (pending final specs and performance reviews, because it's kind of hard to compare it's custom chips on paper.)

romanovcode 1y ago
Intel i7, 1tb ssd, 32gb ram and 3070 can fit in ITX which would be MUCH better performance than the steam box for games. Only downside is you have to install Windows of course.
- rollcat 1y ago
  I haven't checked in detail, but I would suppose SteamOS isn't far off from running on general-purpose PCs. Else, I've heard a lot of good things about Bazzite.
  - roody15 1y ago
    SteamOS does run on regular PC’s I believe unless something has changed?
  - stepbeek 1y ago
    Nvidia drivers leave a bit to be desired on Linux imo. I’ve got an all AMD HTPC right now and bazzite is terrific.
- jakogut 1y ago
  Why do you have to install Windows? You could put bazzite or any other distro of your choosing on this machine and have a similar experience to the official Steam Machine.
  - taude 1y ago

puzzlingcaptcha 1y ago

For 800 eur I'd rather get the cheaper Framework desktop motherboard (Ryzen AI 385) and build around that.