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Nope. I will continue to have a DL card so I can choose to leave my phone at home. When we are required to have our IDs on our person at all times I can at leas

Nope. I will continue to have a DL card so I can choose to leave my phone at home. When we are required to have our IDs on our person at all times I can at least not be tracked everywhere I go. Be watchful for legislation requiring: * us to have our ID on our person at all times. * IDs to be issued in digital format only.

EGreg 11mo ago
Very much, This! Up voted
willio58 11mo ago
To be clear I don’t want either of those laws to be passed, but I’d like the option to have it on my phone and require police to respect it
crazygringo 11mo ago
> Be watchful for legislation requiring This is the paranoia I don't get. These are not things that are going to happen in the US, precisely because so many people (like yourself) are against it, and it's a democracy and people vote. So putting your drivers license on your iPhone isn't some slippery slope.
- the_other 11mo ago
  > These are not things that are going to happen in the US. Citation needed.
  - 6510 11mo ago
    > it's a democracy and people vote But they never get what they wanted nor what they voted for.
  - crazygringo 11mo ago
    I already said why. But to go deeper: the US has, and has always had, a strong libertarian and anti-government streak among a very large proportion of its citizens. And it's not going away. That's why the US doesn't have a national ID, the way so many other countries do. That's why adults are not required to carry ID's with them, the way it is in many other countries. These political values are a strong part of American culture. The distrust of central government and authority has been around since the founding of the country. They belong to the most durable of American values. If the US still doesn't have a national ID, or require citizens to carry ID's, and there's literally no political movement towards that, what on earth makes you think this will change? Being able to put a driver's license on your phone is state-level. It's a form of ID we're OK with. It can't be mandatory because not everyone can drive. There's zero slippery slope here. I just want to carry the card I already have to carry when driving or flying, on my phone instead of physically. There's zero downside here. Is that enough citation for you?
- pcdoodle 11mo ago
  >So putting your drivers license on your iPhone isn't some slippery slope. Yes it is. And participating is accepting it.
- coin 11mo ago
  > This is the paranoia I don't get. These are not things that are going to happen in the US Many brown looking citizens carry their passport so as to not be excessively detained by ICE.

EGreg 11mo ago

Very much, This! Up voted

willio58 11mo ago

To be clear I don’t want either of those laws to be passed, but I’d like the option to have it on my phone and require police to respect it

crazygringo 11mo ago

> Be watchful for legislation requiring This is the paranoia I don't get. These are not things that are going to happen in the US, precisely because so many people (like yourself) are against it, and it's a democracy and people vote. So putting your drivers license on your iPhone isn't some slippery slope.

the_other 11mo ago
> These are not things that are going to happen in the US. Citation needed.
- 6510 11mo ago
  > it's a democracy and people vote But they never get what they wanted nor what they voted for.
- crazygringo 11mo ago
  I already said why. But to go deeper: the US has, and has always had, a strong libertarian and anti-government streak among a very large proportion of its citizens. And it's not going away. That's why the US doesn't have a national ID, the way so many other countries do. That's why adults are not required to carry ID's with them, the way it is in many other countries. These political values are a strong part of American culture. The distrust of central government and authority has been around since the founding of the country. They belong to the most durable of American values. If the US still doesn't have a national ID, or require citizens to carry ID's, and there's literally no political movement towards that, what on earth makes you think this will change? Being able to put a driver's license on your phone is state-level. It's a form of ID we're OK with. It can't be mandatory because not everyone can drive. There's zero slippery slope here. I just want to carry the card I already have to carry when driving or flying, on my phone instead of physically. There's zero downside here. Is that enough citation for you?
pcdoodle 11mo ago
>So putting your drivers license on your iPhone isn't some slippery slope. Yes it is. And participating is accepting it.
coin 11mo ago
> This is the paranoia I don't get. These are not things that are going to happen in the US Many brown looking citizens carry their passport so as to not be excessively detained by ICE.