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I'm sure it is in places that are dominated by strip malls and tract housing. Here in New York City, we have a different approach altogether. I find it much s

by CPLX 11mo ago

I'm sure it is in places that are dominated by strip malls and tract housing. Here in New York City, we have a different approach altogether. I find it much simpler and more straightforward and easy to understand. You always know exactly what another car is about to do. They are going to try to get in front of you and try to get where they are going, while not caring if that helps you go where you're going. I never have to wonder what's going to happen next. Meanwhile, I get off the plane in some flat state, hop in a rental car, and have immediately have no idea what the drivers are planning, what they have in store for me. It's exhausting.

QuercusMax 11mo ago
I live in Portland where we generally drive like sane humans. Your insinuation that anyone who cares about driving safely is from a flyover state is frankly baffling.
estearum 11mo ago
I live in New York City: no. If everyone drove on the shoulder like a few assholes do, we just wouldn't have shoulders. This is extremely silly.
- CPLX 11mo ago
  I don't drive on the shoulder as a way of getting around people. However, if I was behind someone who had gone all the way to the end of an exit lane but then was trying to cut back in to the regular flow of traffic, and I was in a car that wasn't willing to go around this person by driving on their shoulder to get around them as they tried to force their way in at the very last second, I would lose massive chunks of my life. And yes, this is a daily occurrence. For example, drive on the BQE towards South Brooklyn approaching Tillary Street, and see how your life goes if you're not willing to go around the last-minute people on the shoulder.
  - estearum 11mo ago
    This is not the scenario that GP is referring to (Disclaimer: I used to live off the Tillary exit and this is a unique problem – one that's mostly caused by the same types of people who drive on the shoulders because they're so important!)

by CPLX 11mo ago

QuercusMax 11mo ago

I live in Portland where we generally drive like sane humans. Your insinuation that anyone who cares about driving safely is from a flyover state is frankly baffling.

estearum 11mo ago

I live in New York City: no. If everyone drove on the shoulder like a few assholes do, we just wouldn't have shoulders. This is extremely silly.

CPLX 11mo ago
I don't drive on the shoulder as a way of getting around people. However, if I was behind someone who had gone all the way to the end of an exit lane but then was trying to cut back in to the regular flow of traffic, and I was in a car that wasn't willing to go around this person by driving on their shoulder to get around them as they tried to force their way in at the very last second, I would lose massive chunks of my life. And yes, this is a daily occurrence. For example, drive on the BQE towards South Brooklyn approaching Tillary Street, and see how your life goes if you're not willing to go around the last-minute people on the shoulder.
- estearum 11mo ago
  This is not the scenario that GP is referring to (Disclaimer: I used to live off the Tillary exit and this is a unique problem – one that's mostly caused by the same types of people who drive on the shoulders because they're so important!)